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“Conspiracy Theorists” Are Vindicated: U.S. Senate Reports Chemtrails Are Real and Are Killing Us!

Mentioning the word ‘chemtrails’ on a public bus or Facebook is bound to earn you a few eye rolls from eavesdroppers and skeptical family members.

However, while skepticism – regardless of the source – isn’t exactly the worst thing in the world, it appears that those who believe strongly in the idea that the U.S. government is spraying dangerous chemicals into the atmosphere may have been onto something after all.

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The evidence?

No, not some YouTube video by a retired NASA janitor. This time, you’ve got an actual official government document from the U.S. admitting to the placement of chemicals in our atmosphere.

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The document can be found here, but I’ll paste a few excerpts below to give you the gist of things.
To start with, Dr. Norman A Beckman begins by requesting a report on the history of weather modification.

Washington, D.C., July 30, 1976.

Dr. Norman A. Beckman,
Acting Director, Congressional Research Service,
Library of Congress, Washington, D.C.

Dear Dr. Beckman: Weather modification, although a relatively young science, has over the years stimulated great interest within the scientific, commercial, governmental, and agricultural communities. Such responses are readily understandable.

In the next section comes the government’s response, which has a few eyebrow-raising points:
Although the Soviets and some U.S. private operators claim some success in suppressing hail by seeding clouds, our understanding of the physical processes that create hail is still weak. The one major U.S. held experiment increased our understanding of severe storms, but otherwise proved mostly the dimensions of what we do not yet know.

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For over 30 years both legislative and executive branches of the Federal Government have been involved in a number of aspects of weather modification.

That last statement alone should have you clicking that link above to see the full document. Share it with your more skeptical friends and see what they have to say – I know it is certainly opened my eyes quite a bit.

image1Chris Jafarieh   

Chris Jafarieh is a Founding Member of Blaqk Diamond Group, a leading commercial real estate, and finance firm. He is also the creator of Green Diamond, an environmentally conscious division of Blaqk Diamond Group. Chris believes that raising awareness through education is the foundation for achieving sustainability in the commercial real estate environment and energy sector.

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  • alfredkarius

    Seriously, trying to pass off old cloud seeding experiments as the toxic, mind controlling, chemtrail delusions of the lunatic fringe conspiracy theory nutcases is disingenuous sensationalism.

    • Me717

      Did you get the information about the cloud seeding causing poisoning of wildlife? (toxic)

    • G4Real

      Whatever bro. It happens almost every day all over the world…

    • AdisaMO

      Agree and disagree.

    • TEB

      You obviously believe in science so you should look at the science that shows conspiracy theorists are more likely to be independent thinkers with higher IQ than average. It is in fact the CIA that coined the term to be derogatory to attempt to shut up those pointing out the obvious lies of authoritarian governments and or corporations.

  • Kelvin

    Fuck me, but this is genuinely certifiable shit… Men in white coats carrying straight jackets will be along soon.

  • Cliff Postell

    You people snickering at this post are too ignorant to be alive. Like this would be the first time in history our nations gov has poisoned it’s own people. Lets ignore history why don’t we. I mean it’s not like the Tuskegee experiments actually happened. It’s not like the Chicago incident is real. It’s not like we have documented cases throughout this nations history of it poisoning it’s citizens. Wait a minute, um…………………………………………………………………………….. never mind.

    • Andrew Parry

      I’m too lazy to study conspiracy theories…but thought I’d let the headline suck me in and just see what government might be admitting to, just in case…

      Normally I wouldn’t comment without reading the document, but what what was cut and pasted to the article did seem kinda hilariously lame.

      Chemtrailing may well be real. Fucked if I’d know. But my theory on this article as a “conspiracy theory” is now complete. The conclusion is that David is taking the piss, because he gets paid to stir up a bit of controversy and we’re all the dickheads that got $ucked in. Hahaha, nice one David!

      Still I’ll continue follow him coz he has some great stuff too. Think I’ll just revert back to not clicking on anything that wreaks of bulshit!!!

      • TeaTown Cowboy

        You have brain fog from all the fluoride in the water you drink and bathe is probably the reason you’re so lazy to look into conspiracy FACT!

        • Andrew Parry

          Quite possibly!

        • Matt Clayton

          Seriously? I can guarantee you that all of the most intelligent people in the world both drink and support water fluoridation. Unless you think the the pre-eminent physicists, astronomers, engineers, etc. of the world are actually stupid, then why isn’t the fluoride working on them?

          • TeaTown Cowboy

            Maybe those so-called intelligent people in this world are as ill informed as you are. I was there once, believing the same thing, bought into the lies, but did you know everything that’s believed to this point about fluoride being good for our teeth is based on O.N.E. study alone? Pray tell, why do we need to ingest it in order for it to do wonders for our teeth? Do you think our body knows to process something totally foreign like that and move it from our kidneys and digestive system to our teeth?

            If you are open minded and want to become better informed I highly suggest you read “The Fluoride Deception” by Christopher Bryson. Or continue to believe you know better than 90% of the world and esp someone on these internets because he isn’t as intelligent as you or those “most intelligent people in the world”…

          • Matt Clayton

            Move it… to our teeth? It touches our teeth as we drink it. It’s like brushing your teeth. If you seriously think that people like you are 90% of the world, then you are truly misinformed. The majority of the world’s population haven’t even heard of the conspiracy theories. The overwhelming majority of scientists agree that fluoride, vaccines, etc. are safe. What happened to you that you can’t trust normal people and instead will believe anything a crazy person tells you? Why is that book you mentioned more convincing than science?

          • TeaTown Cowboy

            It touches our teeth as we drink it, hahahahahhaha. You’re another brainwashed sheep. Just what I thought.

          • Matt Clayton

            You are quite insane. Are you suggesting it doesn’t touch are teeth or that coating our teeth with fluoride doesn’t do anything? There are plenty of chemicals that can erode our teeth, so why is it impossible that there are chemicals that improve our teeth?

            The burden of proof lies entirely on you. Fluoridation has already been proven to be effective and safe, and not just in one study (where did you even get that from?). The burden of proof, as always, is on the one making the claim. The original claim was that fluoride was safe and effective, so they needed proof and they provided it. Now if someone wants to disprove that proof, you need to be able to do so. The problem is you don’t have any evidence to the contrary; you just have a deep mistrust of others, which is quite sad. They can keep piling up evidence, but you would just ignore but because anyone who disagrees with you must be brainwashed or a shill.

          • Jerry Martinez

            if fluoridation is so safe why has 98% of europe banned it?

          • Matt Clayton

            They haven’t, because that statistic is made up. Even if some places don’t fluoridate water, that doesn’t mean they banned it; they just never bothered to do it. Europe has universal health care. If that’s so great, why doesn’t America have it? Because money. And because people who are against things kick up a big fuss whenever governments try to enact change. Unfortunately for everyone in the world, most politicians aren’t scientists.

            On a side note, do you believe that European governments protect their population from the dangers of fluoride but still deliberately poison them with chemtrails?

          • Jerry Martinez

            thats not a made up statistic why dont you do some actual research and stop believing everything your tv tells you

          • Matt Clayton

            Right, I’m the one believing anything I’m told, says the one supporting the unsubstantiated hippy claims. The correct statistic is that about 98% of the population of Europe doesn’t receive fluoridated water. That’s people, not area or countries. As I said, that’s not because it’s been banned, it’s that they just don’t have it. Fluoridated water is good for you just as toothpaste is good for you, but the government doesn’t give everyone free toothpaste.

          • Don’t forget, it’s repeat scientific experiments with multiple scenarios, ppm levels, controlled (both general & targeted) studies and repeat audits for decades that have shown the sky isn’t falling and fluoride is fine so long as the ppm ratio is within guidelines. People want to be worried I guess? I don’t understand that but to each their own…

          • TEB

            Try again kid, most countries outlawed it a long time ago. Just like they are outlawing GMO in those countries and many pesticides that are still legal in the United States.

          • Matt Clayton

            No. They didn’t “outlaw” fluoridated water. It’s the government’s choice whether to do it or not. Not doing something does not equal making that thing illegal. Countries that don’t fluoridate water could do it legally, they just don’t.

          • TEB

            SMH Some day your arrogance will bite you in the ass.

      • Cliff Postell

        Silly nonsensical rhetoric. I have no idea if these claims are true or not. But based on the history of tyrannical governments, I’d lend my thought process towards the “conspiracy nuts.” Almost nothing surprises me now. The diabolical nature of power creates MONSTERS. Ask the African American community. Ijs

        • Andrew Parry

          Not here to bash conspiracy nuts. For the record, if I were into blind faith, yes, based on history, conspiracy theories might actually take me closer to something like the truth. But blind faith ain’t my thing!

          Just felt utterly let down and robbed of my time by the headline here.

          I’d give this story a ZERO out of ten. How about yourself?

          • Cliff Postell

            I agree. The title of the post is misleading and obviously an insult to our intelligence. These things usually come to light, but NEVER while they’re going on.

            And yea, calling folks “conspiracy nuts” iis a bit disrespectful when the vast majority of the time they’re vindicated in their paranoia.

          • Conspiracy nut is an apt description. They’re not vindicated. They simply swallow headlines like this and think they are vindicated.

          • TTigerLily

            Why a zero? Yes, the headline is pretty seriously over-blown, but it does give us a look at past reports which prove our Gov was actively working on weather modification in 1978 and that our duly elected officials were aware of it. In spite of our past history of con-artists and useless charlatans who went town to town, selling ‘rain’, its too seductive a concept to walk away from. Imagine the power!

          • “Cloud seeding” has been going on for farmers for over a century. That is not a surprise, nor is it the same thing at all, in any way as this “chemtrail” nonsense that is being claimed. The entire concept is rubbish and makes zero sense.

            The big bad government is poisoning us? Why? Ask that question and get ready for 100 different responses, none of which make any sense. If this program existed and was actually successful don’t you think there would be REAL, quantifiable metrics we could verify? All of the illnesses and conditions listed as “proof” are no different what our conditions already create via car pollution, tainted foods, bad habits, etc. Spraying toxic chemicals into the air over a major metropolitan area would have close to immediate results for a HUGE number of people. There is no correlation of this, thus the claim does not have any evidence supporting it other than “I don’t understand how contrails work or what they are so I’m going to assume the worst and scream that the sky is falling!”… It’s pretty absurd.

    • If they weren’t alive, then how would they snicker at this article? Do you have a ghosty conspiracy theory that you’d like to share with us?

      Also, let me see if I have this right. Despite admitting that you have no idea whether these claims are true or not, you still seem very angry with those who have suggested that this article is not true? Really? That’s the basis of your contribution?

      • Cliff Postell

        I didn’t posit their existence, I insulted their critical thinking skills. Big difference.

        I don’t do conspiracy theories, however their are plenty of conspiracy facts we can delve into. Or would you like to continue your blind and unfounded trust in a group of tyrants that run your life. I mean if you like it I love it. LOL.

        And exactly what have you contributed? Condescension? Nonsensical rhetoric? Snide remarks? I guess that’s what people do when they can’t see that governments all around the world are overtly corrupt and actively working against the people they pretend to represent?

        And FYI, I’m not angry, I’m simply agitated by simpletons and morons who couldn’t reason their way out of a paper bag. Yet have the audacity to get online and criticize people because the information they have hasn’t been spoon fed to you by a corporate run media. I mean these corporations love you so much. LOL. You can go back to playing video games now.

        • I’m contributing a decent bit of conspiracy nut trolling.
          Agitated, not angry? Are you the James Bond of the conspiracy nut world? :)

        • When you posit a claim, the burden of proof is on you. If you expect others to “contribute” in order to educate yourself while you are apparently unwilling to, that’s on you as well.

          You state that you are “agitated” by “simpletons and morons who couldn’t reason their way out of a paper bag” but you don’t understand this basic tenant of logic yourself? SMH…

          • TTigerLily

            Posit a claim? I thought he made a comment expressing his frustration with trolls. This is still America, its okay to simply have an opinion without having to have a degree in whatever the subject might be.

        • TTigerLily

          Corporate, political and special interest sponsored trolls:

          ‘Investigative journalist Sharyl Attkisson is one of several in the media who has reported on the increasing trend for organizations to utilize trolls to manipulate public opinion as part and parcel of an Astroturfing initiative. Teams of sponsored trolls swarm a site to overwhelm any honest discourse and denigrate any who disagree with them’.

          Save your breath, Cliff, these online keyboard warriors dont want a logical, reasonable discussion, they just want to prop up their egos by bashing strangers online.

  • 50 lbs of crazy 10 lb bag

    Y’all even if it WAS included in the text, that is not a valid source. It’s a random text file with no verification of where it came from or that it’s original. This is 100% garbage.

  • pookieamos

    I read local obituaries on a daily basis and have been doing so for many years. Do you ? I can tell you that there are a very high number of young deaths, 30 to 59. Some are from cancer according to the obituaries , some are sudden. I personally just had heart surgery at 49. I lost a high school friend a few weeks ago who died of a sudden heart attack. Another acquaintance from high school died last week from a stroke. My husband has had two strokes under the age of 60. I know several people who have had to have heart repair because of abnormal beats. These toxic metals that have been tested by private labs are not meant to be ingested into the human body. One has to understand the overall goal of depopulation to 500,000 under Agenda21,Agenda2030 to see they want to eliminate billions of human beings.

    • AdisaMO

      Not 500 million?

    • “I read local obituaries on a daily basis and have been doing so for many years. Do you ?”

      Oh my days! No, I freaking don’t! Instead, I try to be productive with what is, at best, a short period of time on this earth.

      But I’ll pick up on the ‘science’ here, even though your sample set is mighty small. The global population is still growing and the number of centenarians in the last thirty years has quadrupled. The ‘chemtrailers’ aren’t doing a very good job of it, are they?! Not at all. Time for Plan B, I reckon!

      Lastly, contrails do stop and start in mid flight. Always have done. They have been recorded on video doing so as far back as the 40s. The reason why is fairly simple. But not simple enough, methinks!

      • TTigerLily

        People ARE dying earlier for the first time ever in America, and Alzheimer’s rates are skyrocketing along with autism. Cancer and heart disease rates, lung ailments are also on the rise. I’m not saying its solely the chemsprays, but they sure aren’t helping the situation of toxic overloads in our bodies. A mass of sprawled bodies on the ground would be pretty obvious, but early deaths from common diseases can go on for decades without much comment.

        • You’ve drunk all the flavours of Kool Aid, haven’t you!

          • TTigerLily

            And it is delicious, try the flavors ‘open mind’ ‘respect’ ‘discussion’ and no-trolling!
            Do you even understand the origin of the term? Because you are seriously mis-applying it to me. Not surprising, but disappointing none the less because I feel you are capable of much more if you would just let yourself let go of your fear of the unknown and possibly (I know its tough!) consider that you might actually be wrong.

          • I might actually be wrong? No, I am factually correct as far as the chemtrail conspiracy theory goes. Unlike most other conspiracy theories which inserts invented (usually implausible) ideas into the knowledge gaps of the accepted narrative, the chemtrail conspiracy theory simply ignores known facts, contradicts the huge weight of evidence against it and invents ideas that are simply not compatible with physics. Chemtrails are as likely to exist as unicorns. Hilariously, chemtrails proponents argue that one should question everything, whilst clearly questioning nothing at all. They certainly don’t demonstrate an ability to ‘open their minds’. And they are so far detached from reality that ‘discussion’ simply isn’t on the table. It’s tough to ‘respect’ that sort of dim witted intellect. What’s left to do but to troll them? :)

            I sometimes wonder if the chemtrail conspiracy wasn’t some sort of joke played on conspiracy theorists. Just to see how far gone some of them are. If it was, it turns out there’s a surprising number of them. Gullible doesn’t even begin to describe them. They are positively Kool Aid ready! And you’re handing the drinks out it seems!

          • James Smith

            Are you a paid troll or just an asshole?

          • What a closed minded individual you are! You’ve not even considered the possibility that I may be an unpaid troll, a full-on shill, a dick or just a thoroughly sarcastic individual. Or even, heaven forbid, right.

          • Marilynn Rohrbach

            I’m going to say he is both. Also those who spout the “science” of “contrails” have never applied it. On many, many occasions I have found the existence of the persistent trails do not fit the scientific explanation. It’s a very easy application, just check humidity at altitude when you see persistent trails, if it is not 69% or more then they should not persist.

          • I bet you say a lot of stuff though. And I bet you just make most of it up, dontcha!

          • Marilynn Rohrbach

            I do not make things up. Check the science of “contrails” for yourself, like I did. And then apply the science, yourself, like I did. But that’s not something you do
            is it? You prefer to make snide comments, dontcha!

          • Sure you do! You clearly don’t understand the many issues with measuring humidity at specific altitudes and within specific areas whilst accounting for dry bias of measuring devices/instruments. It’s anything but easy. For all intents and purposes, it’s simply not done.

            So when you say, ‘it’s a very easy application’….well, you’re just making stuff up! Aren’tcha!

          • Marilynn Rohrbach

            Nope, not makin’ it up. Very easy info to obtain, it’s not rocket science it’s just humidity at altitude. Nearby airport has that info and FlightRadar also has it, just to name two.

          • Bible Man

            OPEN-MIND? …. dude … the Kool Aid is perfectly applicable to the cult-like conspiracy groups … and the truth is it was Flavor-Aid they drank at the Jonestown Massacre … where all the cult members drank poisoned fruit drink and committed mass suicide …. because, like you, they believed in something that was not real … and like you, they believed they were under attack by evil entities …. like YOU, they called people who didn’t believe Brian Jones was a prophet of God were fools and sheep and told them to open their minds ….

            …. should we discuss whether or not Brian Jones was in fact really the one true prophet of God? … because there is about as much solid facts to support that as there are facts to support chemtrails ….. come on …. don’t be close minded

          • Jeffrey Lange

            It was Jim Jones. “The Brian Jonestown Massacre” is a band. The actual massacre was perpetrated by Jim Jones of the People’s Temple. But you’re correct, it was Flavor Aid, not Kool-Aid.

          • Bible Man

            … oh right ….. yes, the band got me confused …. thanks

          • nebulove

            perpetrated by rogue “intelligence”, which can be learned easily enough through researching documentaries exposing that fact. Not that that matters in this discussion, but it doesn’t hurt to point out the fact that almost every official story on the nightly noose programming, including that one, waco, okla city, and thousands more–were fabricated to keep the masses from shutting down the real monsters. Those who OWN the noose media. That said….Yes, Virginia those are dangerous amounts of aluminum chaff and other ultra light metal particulates spread across the globe for radical technologies based on Tesla’s discoveries about the conductive nature of our atmosphere. Research or denial…all up to the reader.

          • nebulove

            CIA is th missing ingredient in your kool-aid reference. You’d be wise not to buy every bull tale you’re force fed buybull man

          • Robert Simmons

            While there is some philosophical validity to the distinction between open and closed minds, particularly in the case of empiricism, when used in an argument on the internet it’s almost always a form of whining. Being told to be “open minded” about something — like being made to listen to Michelle Malkin for example — is usually a code for “you’re not going to like this, but I want to subject you to it anyway”. Conversely, being told that you are “closed-minded” is generally a means of asserting that “I don’t like the fact that you’re proving me wrong, so I will pretend that your failure to agree with my argument is a philosophical deficiency”. Being told you are “close minded” simply shows that the one writing is confused about the difference between “open” and “fair” (or is a liar, or simply lazy in their writing, which are you).

          • Lesa Lal

            get you head out of the sand .. and do some friggen research or keep your mouth shut unless you like looking like the idiot you are.

          • Well that’s completely convinced me of your argument. Case settled. No doubts about it. Because obviously…oh, wait. What was your argument exactly?

            Lmao!

        • “People ARE dying earlier for the first time ever in America”

          Have you ever done any research into the life expectancy rates during the great depression? How about during the gold rush? How about even in the 50’s?

          Your claim is nonsensical in every way. On average our life expectancy is higher than it ever has been in recorded history.

          Get off your soapbox and open some books.

          • Lucas Leach

            I have to say everyone I see “debunking” never has anything to say beyond we were told it isn’t so it isn’t.

          • That’s because you aren’t actually listening. When a fast moving object moves through a “cloud” (which is often entirely invisible to the naked eye from the ground) of moisture the thrust creates a vacuum which separates the liquid from the overall “air” and pulls it behind it in concentrated “trails”. This is how contrails work. It’s a matter of physics and if you feel like doing so, you can do it yourself with a pot of boiling water (or other sources for “steam” or “vapor” clouds), a slingshot and a high speed camera.

            Educate yourself before you form your opinions let alone speak them if you don’t want to get shamed or ridiculed. As is, you chemtrail conspiracy nutters are just not operating on the same level of reality as the rest of us. Drop these uneducated, half baked, nonsensical delusions and listen to reality already.

          • Lucas Leach

            see you still aren’t saying anything you are refusing at all to even consider the natural concepts you call basic. I don’t know or care what is right but your half-baked I think I know so it must be right. It is scientifically disgusting don’t make up things from some crap you heard in high school like your somebody who understands the make-up of mass and environmental variables as basic. You can’t explain why the behavior is different you can’t say why because it is out of your grade.

          • TEB

            Many people have photographed chemtrail formation in atmospheric conditions that are impossible for “persistent contrails”. There are many well versed in science that have studied the phenomenon for years.

          • F1-Steffe

            “When a fast moving object moves through a “cloud” (which is often entirely invisible to the naked eye from the ground) of moisture the thrust creates a vacuum which separates the liquid from the overall “air” and pulls it behind it in concentrated “trails”.

            I can see how unedjucated desinfo trolls are if they realy believe that “thats how contrails works”! The fact is that the upper atmossphere where airplanes have there cruise altitude at 30-40.000 feet ,are a very dry and cold inviroment. NASA studies has showed the RH (relative humidity) pending betwen 10-60% RH, but very rarly exides 60% at cruise altitudes. As already short lived contrails need att least from 60% RH to form (which means that only rarely have the air those conditions needed to form even short lived contrails)… persistent contrails spreading on the other hand, who naturaly can create contrails-cirrus formations, needs a highly special airmasse called ICE-SUPERSATURATED present to form, who is extremly cold and who has far over 100% RH within

            Without an ICE-SUPERSATURATED airmasse present which the airplane fly through, the air in the upper atmosphere CAN NOT support the formation of any natural persistent contrails!

            By that fact, and by the fact that ICE SUPERSATURATED airmasses often only occures over cold places like Antarctica, Alaska, Canada, the Alp glacier in europe etc, the chemtrail activity can easily by monitor just by checking the upper atmospher data provided from National weather services. With a ICE-SUPERSATURED airmasse – yes persistent contrail spreding CAN naturaly forrm. With NO ICE-SUPERSATURATED airmasse and very low RH present -persist contrail formation can NOT take form naturaly in any way! It as been reveiled in several peer review papers in rescent years.

            The contrail/chemtrail debate is NOT about IF or IF NOT, instead is about that BOTH can occure, simulenious, at the same time in the atmospehere, all depending on the present air condition. That´s what makes it so complexed for every day Joe´s to get the grips of it.

            It is time both desinfo trolls and chemtrails belivers to realy know that!

          • At 3,000 feet the temperatures above Phoenix, Arizona barely differ from the temperature at 3,000 above Barrow, Alaska. That’s your major point of confusion. Do you think that just because Miami is warmer on the ground in December than Seattle is means the air at 3,000 feet has the same temperature difference? It doesn’t. Not even close so your argument doesn’t hold much water. Now, if you want to talk about the temps at 3k at the poles vs the equator yes there is a measurable difference but it’s not even remotely close to the difference on the ground between say, Seattle and San Francisco less than 600 miles south.

          • F1-Steffe

            I´m sorry mate, but your comments shows you are really lacking knowledges about this subject,

            1 As a contrail formation only can start above 26.000 feet by NASA´s own statement (some pilot´s even do say over 30.000 feet) as the air must be lower then -40 C cold, the air condition on 3.000 ft you meansioned have no importance at all.

            2 Of course the air is different on 35.000 feet then on 3.000 feet, with much less humidity, and Co2 avalible, where it also holds a much higher hPa pressure.

            3. ICE-SUPERSATURATED air masses are special and quite unusal airmasse, which usualy is much more present on high altitude over colder landmasses then over varmer. Which means that YES, ICE-SUPERSATURATED air masses are more common over Barrow Alaska then over Phonix Arizona.

            4. Though, as ICE-SUPERSATURATED air masse do not occure in the upper Tropopause and Stratosphere, AND as the Stratosphere begins from aprox 30.000 feet on the Northern hemispher, all airplanes traveling from lets say Heathrow England to Barrow Alaska above 30.000 ft can NOT naturaly produce any persistent contrails as there aren´t any ICE-SUPERSATURATED air masses present within that part of the atmospher. Although, on route Heathrow – Miami intl. there are a much greater chans for airplanes to produce persistent contrails as there cruise altitude instead do occure in the Troposphere and lover part of the Tropopause where ICE-SUPERSATURATED air masses can be present.

          • TTigerLily

            Incorrect.
            And, the Great depression is the worst possible example you could use.
            People died at amazing rates from lack of sanitation alone.
            I suggest YOU and Denness spend less time trolling and more on research, you’re both sadly behind the research.

          • A chemtrail fanboy/fangirl know what research is if it slapped them in the face. Confirmation bias, on the other hand….they got that!

          • TEB

            Check the numbers life expectancy in the United States has already peaked and is now going down. My generation is expected to die younger than my parents ( I am 52 my parents 83 & 84)

          • “As far as the life expectancy difference between the sexes, Xu says it’s not clear whether genetics plays a role, but behavior probably does. “Men usually take more risks, and they participate in risky outdoor activities like climbing and scuba diving,” he says. “Also, teenage boys do more high-risk activities, and they get in more car wrecks, than girls.” “

        • Keef Hitchens

          wrong on all counts.

        • Amanda

          Heart disease: STOP EATING FAST FOOD AND PROCESSED FOOD. Stop the Facebooking all-day; go to work, get up, move.

      • Wayne Beal

        con and cem are 2 different things and they admit there doing it but thats not enough prof right wake up man

  • TeaTown Cowboy

    Thank you for the article. I used to be one of the skeptics when i first heard about Chemtrails about 5 years ago, but I decided to just observe for myself if there was any truth to what I was reading. Well, voila, Tulsa, OK has been getting NAILED on an almost every-other-day basis. I see it sometimes 7 days a week.

    Spoke to a Californian at the airport and he made a remark, “wow, you’re really getting hit hard with the chemtrails” early on when I started believing and a few months after I read about people in Cali taking soil samples to learn what was being released.

    Keep up the good fight, Chris Jafarieh, and David!

    • You didn’t read the article though, did ya…!

      • TTigerLily

        Why are you so determined to make the age and poor structure of the article the whole point?
        My take away is that as usual, we are not being told the whole story, and the media is again being used to discredit a subject that needs legit investigation.
        Also, that the wordy, obfuscating and simply stupid way these reports are written are why no one in our Gov reads them or at least past the first few pages, and why so much crap gets slipped into spending and other bills with no one noticing till too late.
        There is much that is either badly worded or very cleverly worded, I’m too tired today to decide if its ignorant, or its frightening.

        • “Why are you so determined to make the age and poor structure of the article the whole point? ”

          Oh my days! Perhaps because the article and the headline do not match? Because the article and the chemtrail conspiracy theory do not match? Perhaps that is why?

          You didn’t read it either did ya!

          • Lucas Leach

            it is click-bait but you are harassing people kindly leave us nuts to fighting you to save your ass. Not that it ever works because the idea is too much for your weak psyches to process. So, it falls on deaf ears until the government goes oh yea we did.

          • You’re fighting to free yourselves from a mental straight jacket. And losing that fight. There’s lots of problems with the world and our different governments. But making stuff up does absolutely nothing to help that. Chemtrails are the most pathetic and delusional of all the conspiracy theories. I could explain why, but what’s the point in attempting a rational discussion with someone who entirely discarded reality in the first place in order to make the chemtrail argument? Exactly….

          • Lucas Leach

            Because we are almost certainly sure you are a liar and are unwilling to show that we were right again? That cop-out excuse exists to try and get off without explaining the thing you are incapable of explaining.

          • Well besides the fact that, were the chemtrails dispensed from a jet, you’d need half a dozen 747s filled with the stuff to create the alleged chemtrails dispensed from a single jet. You can work this out from here…. lol!

          • Lucas Leach

            so you are saying the trail can’t possibly be from an airplane or you would need a dozen 747’s correct or was that just poorly worded.

          • See, now didn’t I tell you that you wouldn’t be able to take it in?

          • Lucas Leach

            I understood but that is because I am smart and I can take cues. You on the other hand like to put your foot in your mouth.

          • We really don’t need to know about your ability to take cues. I particularly don’t want to know where you take them. There was really no need to lower the tone by revealing your sexual quirks.

            (In the next episode, Lucas – unable to see that he is being trolled – declares victory, insisting that the mockery he has been subjected to is absolute proof of chemtrails being real.)

          • TTigerLily

            Gary doesn’t know what he means by now, he’s just babbling.

        • “My take away is that as usual, we are not being told the whole story, and the media is again being used to discredit a subject that needs legit investigation. ”

          That is because you are a scared person who would rather believe in boogiemen than take the time to actually understand the topic at hand before forming opinions on it. That’s all on you. Don’t get pissed off when those of us how have actually spent the time and effort to educate ourselves speak ill of your “beliefs”. Do yourself a favor and learn from the exchanges.

          • Lucas Leach

            did you educate yourself on the science itself or just the ways that others say it can’t be real?

          • TTigerLily

            If you are and example of ‘educated’ yikes! We are in bigger trouble than I thought.
            I have to congratulate you on managing to cram so many fantasized negatives about me in one paragraph! Been trolling long?

    • TTigerLily

      I like the play on your T-town handle, lol, nice! I have a lot of family up there who are teaparty squawkers . Have you had occasion to notice if the spraying extends outside of the City? I dont travel much anymore, so I wondered. Simple logistics says that’s an impossible number of planes in the air all the time, surely!

    • You do realize that water vapor condenses in the lower atmosphere right? That’s what (in large enough amounts) forms those “clouds” you see all the time. So, when you have an object traveling at a high speed go through those “clouds” of, often invisible from the ground, vapor it moves the air around it creating a vacuum which pulls the condensation behind it which then groups together and forms the “trails” you are absurdly referring to as “chemtrails”.

      You could easily verify the phenomena yourself using steam from a pot and a slingshot to provide the ballistic item entering the “steamy” area at high speed.

      Rocket science this is not, it’s very elementary physics.

      • Lucas Leach

        You could use science a contrail stays for a period of time or time til dissipation based on a few factors like humidity and wind speed and it’s behavior is affected by the same a heavy particle mass like metal pieces would be less affected and persist longer.

        • Incorrect.

          • Lucas Leach

            how?

          • Physics.

          • Lucas Leach

            You can write words I am impressed now how does physics explain this come on I wanna hear it.

          • Writing words is not my only skill. I am also able to use punctuation correctly.

          • Lucas Leach

            the fall back of the loser punctuation! If you are too stupid to read something unless it is perfect you don’t deserve to hold sharp objects. second trying to force it on a forum is sort of like being retarded.

          • Of course, the plus point of being barely literate is that it is unlikely that you will understand enough of the opposing argument to ever actually lose the debate. Every cloud has a silver lining!

          • TTigerLily

            Pfft, more like denial.

  • AdisaMO

    If the document was shorter, I may have read it. A quick ctrl+f ‘chemtrails’ confirms my suspicion and credits your sentiment. The document is ancient and bares no real significance to the contemporary opinions on weather modification. Any proposal to mix definitions of ‘chemtrails’, ‘cloud seeding’ and ‘weather modification’ is muddying the truth. The latter two can be proved easily. The former, and the connotations derived, such as listing ingredients of chemicals and diseases puked out of aircraft … well that has been not to easy to validate on a grand scale. That doesn’t mean it’s not happening the way civilians report. I’m not ruling anything out and I’m not ready to conclude on my findings

    • “That doesn’t mean it’s not happening the way civilians report.”

      Civilians are not in a position to verify the chemical makeup of the naturally occurring contrails left in planes’ wakes so yes, it does absolutely mean its not happening the way civilians report. Their speculation is uneducated and unfounded fear based “The sky is falling!!!” paranoia and nothing else. A bunch of nutters, nothing more.

      • TTigerLily

        ‘Uneducated and unfounded”? Dude, pause your game, crawl up OUT of your mommy’s basement and go LOOK at the sky! Your juvenile denial wont make it go away.Your fear and anger with me is entirely misplaced. And I would rather be considered a nutter who is at least willing to question what is taking place than a fool of a bully who just accepts whatever they are told in order to be comfortable, and feel free to belittle others.

        • Matt Clayton

          Everyone has seen the sky and knows contrails are real. I don’t understand what you conspiracy theorists believe about sceptics. Do you think we’ve never seen the white streaks in the sky? Everyone knows they’re there, and every intelligent person knows they’re vapour. Just LOOKing at the sky isn’t evidence of anything.

          • Jake

            Contrails disappear after about a minute or so. These other white streaks stay in the sky for hours and spread out, sometimes covering most of the sky. Thus it’s blocking the sunlight out.

          • Paceride

            When the conditions are right, they persist and spread.

          • TEB

            It is if you are old enough to be around when the sky full of planes in the 60’s and 70’s had none of those lines across the sky. As a photographer I have spent my life looking at and photographing the sky as it will enhance or ruin any landscape photo I choose to take. Before the 90s the contrails followed the plane across the sky maybe 3 times the length of the plane. “persistent contrail” was a non existent thing. I have the 1000s of slides and negatives proving the skies didn’t look like they do now and the plane traffic has not increased in a significant enough number to use that excuse. I may not know what exactly is in the chemtrails or even the exact agenda of them but yes observation is enough to know they are not natural plane contrails.

          • Kevin Haddock

            I’d love to see you post those online. I’ve been looking for empirical proof for my more sceptical friends.

          • TEB

            I plan to buy a negative scanner to get them online but it is not as if there are 1000s of pictures online already from that time period that show this,

          • “I plan to buy a negative scanner to get them online but it is not as if there are 1000s of pictures online already from that time period that show this,”

            You can get a 35mm negative scanning adapter with a high number of mid-range scanners for as little as $100. Scanning a picture of something a mile in the air is not the same as conducting a chemical analysis of the content in the trails though. It’s still just uneducated assumptions. “I see a trail, it must be artificial chemicals!” That is not legitimate science in any way let alone proof of your opinion. It’s simply saying “Hey, there’s a trail” and you are drawing your own conclusions off of nothing but that limited bit of info.

            Do some research into Boeing, Lockheed Martin, NASA and so many others wind tests and the results of natural formations that are a byproduct.

          • TEB

            bla bla that research has been done, not by me, as I am not a scientist but clifford carnicom for one has been taking air samples and documenting supposed contrails forming in conditions that are not possible for a contrail to form for what, 20 fricken years now. My comment about the photos was in response to someone who asked me, but yeah they are also proof that once upon a time despite the sky having lots of plane traffic CHEMTRAILS (referred to by liars, as persistent contrails) did not exist. 99 times out of 100 those who want to argue this are kids (to me) who were not even alive at the time. I remember the damn skies from the 60s and 70s I was alive and outside every day. I lived in the suburbs of Minneapolis and the inner city of Seattle. I traveled during that time to 44 of the lower 48 states (including all the big metropolitan areas that should have been effected by the contrails at that time if you want to argue there is more plane traffic now then there was then. Places like, NYC, L.A., WA DC, chicago, miami, denver as well as the lower canadian provinces and northern Mexico throughout that time period by car. Even the 70’s smog had less effect on the sky and the view of the mountains then the damn chemtrails.

          • So, he was able to get up what, a hot air balloon to take his samples from the actual air he claims is being effected? Here on the ground there are already multiple pollutants and contaminants (both natural and synthetic) that pollute any results. Sending up a remote balloon or drone? still polluting the sample as it is not directly captured so the purity of the sample cannot be validated which is why it’s considered junk science. If you cannot validate results outside the margin of error then your sources aren’t valid.

            You aren’t a scientist, maybe you should learn from actual scientists about the chain of evidence. Any break in it destroys the assumed “quality” of the source due to contamination.

            Here in the Pac-NW, we have Boeing and a major international airport where at any moment in time (24 hours a day) there are no less than a dozen commercial flights coming in or going out in addition to the test aircraft Boeing Field is launching. We can still see the Olympics, the Cascades, Mount Rainier, Mount Baker up in Canada more than 300 miles away and more. Our air quality is fantastic, our water is clean and we don’t have any lung condition epidemics. If you were to be believed, we’d have massive issues with our air quality but we don’t. Jump off the bandwagon man, it’s just not legit.

          • Bill Clayten

            Do you think that planes use the same jet engines that they used in the 60s and 70s?

          • nebulove

            do you think water vapor should spread across the sky simply due to momentary compression and magical kerosene-based jetfuel?
            Christ.

          • Get Real People

            gas turbine engines didn’t become the norm on passenger planes until the late 70’s.,before that planes were a mixture of engines, most were internal combustion engines.. The gas turbine engine on passenger runs at a much higher temperature than an internal combustion engine. The higher temperature differential from the exhaust and the cold temperature of the air a flying altitude causes the air to condensate causing “trails”.

            the gas turbine engine’s design does not allow for any pollution equipment ( catalytic converters ) that burn any residual fuel, allowing it to spread into the atmosphere.

            If the government was “really” concerned about emissions, we would not be using gas turbine engines.

            a modern airplane pollutes the air more while idling for 10 minutes, than the average car does driving in 1 year.

          • TEB

            there were no trails in the 80s or first half of the 90s

          • shelley_ashfield

            Really?

          • TEB

            really!

          • nebulove

            no shit! Never seems to get any response from shills when you point that out though. Maybe the clowns who troll against the already well-exposed and documented reality of metalicized atmosphere experiments are less than 20 years old themselves. Would at least explain why every single one of them starts name calling and acting like butthurt adolescents when shot down. I grew up outdoors for the most part, all seasons of the year in an area where there were always storm fronts coming and going. Lines lingering and spreading across the blue sky or cloudy sky NEVER appeared until recent years. And in the past 5 years–suddenly everyfukkingwhere you go! If only there were a vaccine for wiping out just the trolls, soulless shills and terminal aholes.

          • Course, this argument only works if you go to every library and steal books from their science sections which contain detailed descriptions and photographs from the 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s and 80s of every type of contrail which conspiracy nuts now refer to as chemtrails. Oh, and get rid of the video evidence too. At that point, this argument will work just fine. Until then, it’s as silly as you get.

          • cough…..bullshit….cough.

          • “It is if you are old enough to be around when the sky full of planes in the 60’s and 70’s had none of those lines across the sky.”

            Lower cruising altitudes by default. Less international flights, less 747 size planes, lower speeds of base-level aircraft, the list of reasons goes on and on. You could say looking back to the 60’s and 70’s our highways weren’t nearly as congested but since we’ve widened roads and added more lanes congestion has gotten worse because roads “cause traffic”, the roads aren’t to blame as there are many other factors that aren’t being taken into account in the initial claim.

          • Gonna have to call bullshit on this one. Which I know will come as a huge surprise to you. Contrails have been well documented for decades. Indeed, there are climate encyclopedias dating back to the 40s with detailed descriptions of formation, persistence and dispersal with associated photography. There’s also plenty of video evidence. The only thing that has changed over the decades is the quantity. I can’t imagine why. It’s almost as if there are more aircraft….

            You’d know this if you were truly in the business of research as opposed to conducting an exercise in confirmation bias.

          • TEB

            I will say Bullshit right back contrails disperse quickly I lived in a big city in the 60s and 70s (two different cities to be exact, minneapolis then Seattle) and we had clear blue skies with a small line following a plane across the sky dissipating as it went, we all knew what a fricken contrail was. I am a photographer and only in the 90s did there start to be persistent lines in the sky in my photos. There is proof of skies with trails be added to the recoloring of old movies as people have copies of the original vhs movies that came out where the trails were not there.

          • Yawn. I grew up under the flight path of Heathrow airport. Almost every freaking family photo in the garden has a persistent contrail in the background. Try again.

          • Boadie Scott

            It’s proven that they are NOT VAPOR if they are Chemtrails. Vapor trails disappear quickly, Chemtrails hang on, spread out and eventually fall to earth.

          • Matt Clayton

            It’s not proven. Any scientist will tell you that’s not true. Clouds are vapour. Do clouds disappear quickly?

          • nebulove

            thats why *research* matey! You must not be old enough to remember when they suddenly appeared one small period at a time….until recently, when they are suddenly everyfukkinwhere. But go on kid, don’t bother trusting published science from world-renowned nuclear physicists and brave geologists-chemists and even whistle-blowing mil. aviation insiders. They surely just risk their reputations lying to scare people for nothing. Cons are real too. And I ain’t one of them.

      • wayne

        you need the shit slapped out of you, your a fucking moron, it don’t take a fucking college degree to open your fucking eyes and see what the fuck is going on. you fucking trolls!!,,no just out right dumb fucks!

        • Classy response. So you are unwilling to take the time to actually educate yourself on the physics of the particulate matter and I’m supposed to take your uneducated word for it? No thanks… I’ll stick with verifiable, repeatable scientific evidence instead of your conspiracy theories every single day, thanks…

  • MiamiHybrid

    The document is aged. While 40 years is short in thr great circle of life, the last 30 is monumental for tecnology. If this project is still in existence, is there a update to the study?
    Conspiracies are only that. The world governments have done all sorts of experiments in all areas of nature. Why would this surprise or be new to anyone?

    • TTigerLily

      Not to mention what research WE get to see is the tip of the iceberg after the military has squeezed every iota of weaponization from every possible source.
      IF weather can be modified, you can bet they would be all over it. What a military game ender if you can stop rain in an entire reigon or wipe out whole cities and coastlines with hurricanes etc.
      And it wouldn’t be the first time our Gov authorized inhumane experiments on its own people.

      • “Not to mention what research WE get to see is the tip of the iceberg after the military has squeezed every iota of weaponization from every possible source.”

        Yeah, look at all the massive ecological warfare we’ve used in the middle east, the flooding and hail and tornadoes and… Oh wait a minute…

        “IF weather can be modified, you can bet they would be all over it.”

        Indeed and since we haven’t seen ANY use of such a thing (not even to help divert calamitous weather away from our own country) it’s more than safe to say it’s a fictional concept.

        You’re a nutter if you buy into this nonsense. We don’t have the technological capability to alter the weather in such drastic ways.

  • Cliff Gridley

    Google HARP program..

    • The Home Affordable Refinance Program? I knew it! They’re relocating all the poor people into pockets to make them easier to spray!

      Perhaps you meant HAARP. You should probably stop using Google at all….

  • TTigerLily

    Real contrails come from jets flying much higher up than the chemtrails.

    Flying here between a major commercial airport and a major military airport, they must be being kept lower to avoid chaos. And, now that I think about it, we used to have many, many small private planes flying all the time here. I just realized that I haven’t seen any in a very long time.
    Maybe they have been banned from that level/height in the sky so they don’t collide with the sprayers?

    Today set a record, I counted 7 chemplanes spraying our City, north to south.
    On these days, I am easily fatigued, I have heart palpitations, and am short of breath.
    I believe its a happy coincidence for ‘someone’ that weather modification chemicals adversely affect any living organism it falls on. Much like excess fluoridation affecting our endocrine system.
    It could be a necessary evil, to die quickly of drought or slowly from chemical poisoning. Maybe its counter acting global warming. Maybe it is a sinister plot to control world population.
    I think the dcheneys of the world are in way too many key positions, making genocidal decisions because they know too many people flat refuse to believe this stuff can ever happen in America.
    I see my country being ruled by the greedy and the conscienceless, while ‘We the People’ struggle to share info about it on facebook because no one else will listen to our concerns.
    The tightly controlled media? Ha. ‘Our’ politicians? Lol.

    This isn’t how my State was 30 years ago, we were contrary, determined, vocal and involved people….not these apathetic, angry, defeated puppets I see around me.
    I look back at the last twenty years in the US, the F5 tornadoes, tornadoes in States where they had never been before, the hurricanes, floods, snow, no snow…rain, no rain…Terrible droughts in Texas and Oklahoma.
    People were actually getting angry and vocal about the frackers using too much fresh water while animals died, crops failed and farms and ranches went under.
    Suddenly, we have these chem trails blanketing the skies, and RAIN, in amounts and in months where historically, we do not have rain, breaking all kinds of records.

    Believe what ever you like, but remember old saying like ”there’s no smoke without fire’ and open your mind to the possibilities of what we as Americans, formerly believed to be impossible, may well be possible and taking place as we waste time arguing about it.
    The total lack of media acknowledgement much less coverage, is in itself very suspect.

    Btw, in no rational world does the FCC allow jet planes to play hopscotch in the sky for hours at a time. Seven, all within easy eyesight, at one time, all flying loosely north to south AND east to west, at the same time. We don’t train fighter pilots here. Heck, even they don’t fly these crazy patterns.
    These planes used to spew out a straight trail, a few months back they’ve added some kind of baffle and it comes out curly swirled, makes much more natural looking cloud cover.

    Making fun of the whistle blowers and first reporters has always been the tool of criminals, liars, con artists and bullies, ‘conspiracy’ has been made the new term for ‘nuts’, in order to intimidate and discredit those of us who ask questions.
    Please don’t comment to tell me how wrong I am, as I said, you are free to believe what you like, and belittling, snide comments still don’t negate my observations. You are free to blow it off, or to open your eyes and your mind, and maybe discover there is a situation here that requires your attention.

    I have battled the energy industry’s vicious trollz for years about the dangers of fracking, and, oh look, we now have irrefutable evidence of its dangers. Do I need a science or biology degree to write studies to ‘prove’ my observations? No. Just my head out of my ass, and an inquiring mind about whats taking place around me.
    The science WAS there, just suppressed by lots and lots of cash and the use of powerful intimidation.
    I suspect the chemtrail issue will be more of the same.
    Dont belittle and demean each other, doing the trollz job for them. Simply keep observing, sharing info, and be aware of the changes taking place. When enough people step up and speak out,maybe we can demand some real answers.

    • I think we found one, Houston…

    • You do realize that this entire “chemtrail” conspiracy nonsense goes back well over 20 years right? Do you realize that “contrail” simply means “Condensation trail” and is not in ANY way unique to altitude? Obviously not.

      If you don’t want to be belittled or demeaned, please take the time to ACTUALLY research a topic before you start spouting fear-mongering conspiracy rubbish! Just because YOU do not understand what you observe doesn’t make your “best guess” true and you only do a disservice to your fellow uneducated folk by making them feel your claim has any legitimacy.

      Please stop “dumbing down” our country.

      • Lucas Leach

        have you taken the time to observe the contrails or the behavior of planes? Are you a pilot with a working knowledge of FCC regulations? You seriously know nothing but like to babble. It is endearingly cute but naivete always is.

      • TTigerLily

        Hahahaha! Sounds like you need to spend less time attacking others and more on ‘educating’ your ownself, lol. You dont have a clue, do you? Just randomly spouting crap, trying to intimidate people? Hahaha, that’s really funny, thanks for the best laugh I’ve had all week!

    • pookieamos

      Well said!

  • michael james

    Another lunatic fringe conspiracy given a headline that’s supposed to mean something, but doesn’t. Cloud seeding destroys buildings, crops, and drowns people? lol.

  • Lucas Fegel

    I highly doubt they are going to use the word Chemtrails. Cloud seeding seems more like the technical term they would use.

  • Michael D

    :)

  • What did you expect from a website run by a nutcase whose middle name is Avocado. I feel embarrassed to have even clicked on the link. I’ll certainly be un-friending the person on FB who decided it was worth sharing. Move along, nothing here to see.

  • Alfie

    I seriously doubt any nation, especially Russia with Putin at the helm fighting the so-called International Bankers, would turn the other cheek on something as deadly this theory claims it to be. They would shoot these alleged chem-trail planes out of the sky.

  • Jeremy Moser

    One thing I’ve learned about conspiracy theorists is that they only listen to other conspiracy theorists. Any information from an expert or official entity is just “lies and misinformation “. But consider for a moment that BOTH sides may be correct, maybe not every single line in the sky is a natural phenomenon or poison gas. The document is about cloud seeding but isn’t that just a term meaning “we sprayed chemicals into a cloud” and does that automatically mean those chemicals were poison? if you think the people here are dying of disease faster than ever, have you bothered to check the disease rate of other countries that don’t have Chem trails? If either side truly had an open mind they would agree that it could be both ways. Instead of just screaming “wake-up sheeple ” why don’t you try to actually do something to bring proof to your claim so you could help the populace, not just encourage them to live in impotent fear. Lastly. Insults are the last resort of the weak. Intelligence loses all credibility when emotions take control of productive thought processes.

  • Karl Childers

    I made some chemtrails once after eating some French fried taters mmmhmm

  • Karl Childers

    I always enjoy having someone tell me contrails cannot persist. My next step is to ask them if they even know how they form. They don’t even know. If they did, and bothered to read the multiple scientific studies conducted over the last few decades, they would see that contrails can and will persist if the air is already saturated.

    Claiming contrails don’t persist is as big a lie as the one Russ Tanner and Dane Wigington push: that high bypass turbofan engines cannot make contrails. A simple look at Schumann, Knollenberg and Schrader’s studies ( conducted with actual flight tests) prove that not only can contrails persist, high bypass engines make MORE and at a wider range of altitudes.

    Simply ask Russ or Dane about them and you’ll instantly be blocked. Maybe it is because Russ peddles anti chemtrail supplements and Dane makes his living through public speaking about “geoengineering”

    Now go ahead and

    1) ask me how much I’m getting paid
    2) tell me how asleep I am
    3) tell me to do my research
    4) call me a shill
    5) oh yeah..tell me to look up!!
    6) tell me to Google chemtrails
    7) point me to videos on YouTube

    The only arguments these chemtrail imbeciles really ever need

  • Ken Ring

    Aerosols do not create weather, which comes initially from the cycles of moon and sun. These cycles of extra-terrestrial bodies create earth’s ocean currents by way of electrical field action on the earth’s inner core, which energizes ocean currents. In turn the ocean currents move upwards to create waves, wind systems, sea surface temperatures and storms. The potential storm systems now having been put in place, nature’s vast aerosols then allow condensation.
    There is simply no physical way that tiny amounts of substances introduced into the air by Man can
    change the orbit of the moon, the electrical fields around the earth, the seasons nor the rotation of the sun. Neither can they penetrate deep into the ocean to energize or change the direction of currents, some as high as 10-storey buildings, which are induced and aided by underwater eruptions that also cannot be reached by anything from the air.
    Whilst it is true that raindrops gather around dust particles, the amounts of dust and volcanic impurities in the atmosphere at any one time is so immense and outweighing, and so ongoing on such a huge scale for the thousands of millions of years before Man came along, that it is absurd to think that Man, still
    almost completely absent on 98.4% of the surface of the globe, could add any significant proportion of aerosols to air. Even if he was able to do so, weather is generated between the ground and 40kms into the atmosphere, far too high for any manmade substances, which are mostly heavier than air anyway, to
    reach to. Regardless of the air pollution we are shown to be happening in places like Beijing, pollution is not weather and does not alter weather, otherwise you would see weather anomalies constantly hovering above pigsties.
    However, species vanity is what we specialise in. We think humans are the Master Race. In fact we are well down the ladder in terms of mastery. Almost all other species of living creatures, be they insects, birds, fish or mammals, can detect weather changes, earthquakes, droughts and floods, with good time to spare to move nests or temporarily relocate. More accurately we are the Dumb Race. We are unable to adequately feed, shelter, protect or nurture our own species, which is rare in nature. Our Greed Gene conflicts with our sense of survival, and we are easily swayed by rhetoric from fools who in reality are feathering own nests whilst pretending to be the harbingers of truth. These comprise politicians, conspiracy theorists, media and research-grant hungry scientists. They wouldn’t know a weather fact if they walked into one.
    Ken Ring
    Longrange weather forecaster

  • madnessofcrowds

    If you had even the most basic understanding of clouds and atmosphere you would know a number of things: clouds which contain water form at below 20,000ft – so there’s no point trying to seed clouds above 30,000 ft because there is NO water vapour up there, it’s too cold and dry.
    2. The photo which you imply shows ‘chemtrails’ is in fact a photo of CON-TRAILS created by aircraft flying through very dry, very cold air at 30,000ft or more. When kerosene burns in a jet engine at 30,000 ft it creates water vapour, which INSTANTLY freezes as ice crystals in the deeply cold air. Those linear trails are not ‘water’ they are ICE.
    3. The attempts to create rain with silver iodide crystals by seeding clouds with them has taken place since the 1930s I think and it works, but only at relatively low altitudes where clouds and water vapour are plentiful.

    The conspiracy theory that some dark ‘agency’ is spraying POISONS into the atmosphere from thousands and thousands of jets is just insane. Motive? Practical operation? And not one of the tens of thousands of airport workers who drove the poisons to the airport, pumped them into jets, flew the aircraft and dumped the chemicals – NOT ONE has decided to become a $millionaire by telling his story and taking photos. Does not compute.

  • Bible Man

    Nothing to worry about with these ‘chemtrails’ as it’s only burnoff, the same as ethanol or kerosene burning giving off carbon, which isn’t too bad for the stratosphere….. CFC’s from refrigerants are way worse than this theory. 1ppm chlorine in the atmosphere depletes tons of O3 contributing to global warming, thus the ban on pure CFC’s….. but oh yah, you conspiracy nuts are usually also global climate change deniers too ……. IRONY

  • Kim Willis

    Its an old document, some minor experiments may have been made then. It seems that the experiments were abandoned. There is no proof the experiments are on going, or that it actually harms anyone. Ever since there were airplanes flying in our skies we have seen their vapor trails.

  • Tracey Dunn Williamson

    They have much more effective ways of poisoning us, most of the food people eat is filled with drugs, antibiotics and hormones.Grateful I gave up meat and dairy most brainwashed people are still foolish enough to eat. There is now drug laden horsemeat in the US beef supply too, that is very serious. The water has fluoride{ neurotoxin} in it although it has been proven it does nothing. They treat everything with pesticides and are poisoning the water supply by fracking .They sell Round Up like it is candy and the fools still use it. I wouldn’t worry over it, humans have over populated themselves out of resources now, the oceans are being raped to utter destruction, the wildlife decimated, trees clear cut for the meat industry, humans won’t be here in 100 years , they weren’t smart enough to take care of what they were given. But its okay, because greed was worth it all.

  • Keef Hitchens

    condone misinformation? the man makes his living off misinformation..

  • Sandy Ratigan

    I was going to answer one individual and after looking at many of the comments i decided this is directed at all the chicken littles here. This report is oldddddddddddddddddddddd. Who knows for a fact that it is chem trails that is “killing us younger” – truly how unscientific – what about the foods that have been enhanced (Monsanto) greater stress (there is something to be said about a simpler life) all the technologies we have available, administering antiobiotics and encouraging the growth of super viruses and bacterium, among some direct factors on health and life. There are any number of things that can relate to death – and as a matter of fact the life expectancy discounting all of your anectodal evidence, is now greater than ever, by more than 15 years since 1960. What doesn’t make sense in this chem trail theory is if our government is doing it – for what purpose, to kill us all off, remember they live under these skies too. Or is it some evil other country trying to kill us???? Have we been taken over by some aliens and they are unaffected by what they are spraying in our skies. Or maybe to increase enrollment in OBAMACARE. I find the conspiracy theorists on this one laughable.

  • Donna McMillan

    They cloud seed here on the west coast of Tas

  • Gary Nelson Harper

    Wake up..yeah right. Just what chemical are we being sprayed with? Do you possess spectra that show the chemical in absorption or emission? Do you have ground samples? Perhaps some verifiable information is in order, before you tell me to wake up.

  • Karl Mueller

    Do you guys sell tinfoil hats? I need one to read ridiculous bullshit like THIS.

  • Joshua Nester Sr.

    I have friends in Air Force intelligence&what the gov isn’t telling you is the chemicals they’re releasing isn’t just dangerous or for weather modification..The trails when criss-crossed form a grid in the sky to which our gov can project a beam on to from a satellite&make holograms appear that look absolutely real..This technology is supposedly suppose to save our troops lives by winning wars without firing 1 bullet..However within the next 20 yrs as all the baby boomer Christians die off rumor has it our gov is going to use this technology to duke not just the American ppl but the world into thinking aliens are real about to invade&its the will of God or Allah for us to surrender..And this is how they’re going to try to set up a New World Order w 1 gov..I personally don’t buy conspiracy theories&stick to the bible but proof this 4d hologram technology exists&is in place is all over the internet..If you’d like you can google CIA uses holograms on Guantánamo Bay terrorist prisoners.Or you can YouTube Virgin Mary appears at sunset on Ivory Coast in Africa&floating city appears over China..The last 2 clearly show what Chem trails are really for&what our gov can really do w them.. Stay safe God Bless

    • Inis_Magrath

      Off your meds again, eh?

  • PazUniversal

    What a ton of BS. The links articles/documnet that supposedly has all this revelation about chemtrails has NOTHING, ZERO, NADA even mentioning the term and anything like it. Because THERE ARE NONE. Those that believe do so because they want to believe it. Period. And the only mention of the word in this article is by th author is his headline and subheads. The reason? THERE IS NOTHING TO IT. Period. Now children, take your recess, play your dodge ball or tiddly winks and take your afternoon nap.

  • lilredhsb

    Chemtrails are not real but idiots are *CoughDavidWolfecough*

  • Amanda

    Why is the life expectancy going up in the USA and around the world?

  • F1-Steffe

    I can see how unedjucated desinfo trolls realy are when they take the endless debate with chemtrails believers in forum like this, and where they often try to shine with facts who not by far are scentificly correct !

    The things you ALL first and formest most understand is: that the upper atmosphere where airplanes have there cruise altitude at 30-40.000 feet, are a very dry and cold inviroment. NASA studies has showed that the RH (relative humidity) is pending betwen 10-60% RH, but very rarly exides 60% at cruise altitudes. As already short lived contrails need att least from 60% RH to form (which means that only rarely have the air those conditions needed to form even short lived contrails at 30-40.000 feet)… persistent contrails spreading on the other hand – who naturaly can create contrails-cirrus formations – needs a highly special airmasse called ICE-SUPERSATURATED to form, who is extremly cold and who has far over 100% RH within. As it has över 100% RH it hold so much moisture that the supercolded jetexcaust particles can stay in supersaturated condensed state for a long time, until the ICE-SUPERSATURED airmasse starts blend with warmer and dryer airmasses, who then make the persisent contrail/contrail-Cirrus to slowly disapate.

    Consekvently, without an ICE-SUPERSATURATED airmasse present in the airspace the airplane fly through, the air in the upper atmosphere CAN NOT support the formation of any natural persistent contrails as the RH simply is not high enough! Period!

    By that fact, and by the fact that ICE SUPERSATURATED air masses often mostly occures over cold places like Antarctica, Alaska, Canada, the Alp glacier in europe etc, the chemtrail activity can easily by monitor just by checking the upper atmospher data provided from National weather services. With a ICE-SUPERSATURATED airmasse present – yes persistent contrail spreding CAN naturaly forrm. With no ICE-SUPERSATURATED airmasse and very low RH present – persistent contrail formation can NOT take form naturaly in any way! It as btw been reveiled in several peer review papers in rescent years about the subject.

    The contrail/chemtrail debate is therby NOT about IF or IF NOT, instead is about that BOTH phenomenas have the potential to occure. sometimes even simultanious, at the same time in the airspace, all depending on the present air condition and/or lack of right air conditions for contrails formations. That´s what makes it so complexed for every day Joe´s to get the grips of it. Because, if the air conditions NOT support the formations of contrails – any persistent contrail or contrail cirrus cloud formation present can simply NOT be or take form… naturaly. Hence: most have been created in some man-made way. End of discussion!

    It is time both desinfo trolls and chemtrails belivers realy started to know about such things and first do the homework about atmospheric facts (and other related things) much better, before engage in pro versus anti chemtrail debates in heated manner!

    • If that were translated into English, I bet it’d be really interesting.

  • MaryKBachman

    I travel internationally and I have photos from the Italian Alps, Paris, London, Prague, over the Atlantic ocean, Frankfort, etc. of chemtrail patterns. Flew from Warsaw, Poland to London this week, and we were parallel to one trail already spread, and another by an airplane flying close and parallel at our altitude.

  • Your1Friend

    What a supremely weird country America has become.

  • Surely people understand the difference between the uncontroversial practice of cloud seeding and the chemtrail conspiracy theory? Cloud seeding has been around for a hundred years and everybody in agriculture, science and the weather industry knows about it. Some conspiracy.

  • Jared Gushattey

    Hey author you are fucking loser with too much time on your hands. Get a fucking life moron