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Nothing he killed here was endangered

The hunting of these animals is no different that the hunting on the game ranches here in the USA, they are raised to be hunted, it is a business and people pay big bucks to do it. Those big game animals are raised for that purpose in Africa by big game ranches/.farms, what ever you what to call them, for the sole purpose of hunting and also to conserve the wild species by adding to them when possible. Big game hunting in Africa is a conservation of animals and habitat business. And the ones that are shot are done with conservation in mind.!!…..

and if it’s an animal close to extinction, continued Trophy Hunting might mean we don’t that animal on earth at all at some point. Gone. Forever.

You think third world regimes are worried about sustainability?
Oh man, thanks for the laugh.

you truly are a simple minded person

@the wickerman. ummm, I have done hunts in Africa. CathyMike and Rumcrook are absolutely correct. The meat, if you do not want it, goes to the village. I personally took my meat. I saw it first hand. And you can see where the money goes for wildlife management and poaching efforts.

You are telling these people that what they have read is untrue. Have you been over there to see it first hand? No, you read crap posted online by animal rights activists spouting lies and hate against legal hunters. Your “research” is flawed and full of lies. Now go away until you actually know the truth

He’s a fool, he can’t even form a paragraph without calling people names in almost every sentence. his quest is to advance his religion which is leftwing doogoodery and part of his prayer call is to screech at non beleivers like us about how horrible we are so he can pat himself on the back for being suitably awsome in his ability to virtue signal fellow leftard doogooder co-religionists and they can all clutch thier pearls and revel in thier own awsomess while secretly buying “organically” raised steaks on a blue Styrofoam tray with a tampon underneath, at whole foods from an animal someone else had to kill.

But your name calling is acceptable. If these “sportsmen” are so altruistic they could donate $350K to the famished African villagers instead of engaging in the killing of animals for pleasure. It’s nothing more than sociopaths engaging in bloodlust.

FIRST he went on a long attack calling names right off the bat, everything he got in return was a response. Second Your puting up a straw man to nock down. NO one said they were altruistic they are using thier money to enjoy thier lives, they could do lots of things with thier money none of which would end up in a village in africa so this is it take it or leave it. as for the sociopaths comment it’s hyperbolic nonsense. Lastly I love the fact that Lilly white leftists want to decide what’s right and good for generally impoverished 3rd world countries and once you got your way and somehow got rid of westerners buying hunts in africa and they were a lot more impoverished people just like you would go happily on your way secure in the knowledge you virtue signaled how awsome you are. AS usual never looking back at the mess and devestation you helped create in the vacuum.

You don’t live there either you sanctimonious jerk. boohoo clutch my pearls and talk about the white man and little brown people, and hyperventilate while patting myself on the back for virtue signaling how awsome I am. I laugh at people like you.

And I the way I’ve read articles that detailed how photo safaris non hunt safaris unfortunately do not bring in enough money to replace hunting and that money is needed for wildlife management and anti poaching efforts wetter you like it or not. IT’S the same in the United states, 99 percent of the ones used to manage and maintain wildlife and the programs around them come from revenues from hunting and permits. AND left wing causes and non profits do virtually nothing compared with that. and thier is no way around that fact for you.

Those damn rich people! Libtards always find a way to blame the evil rich people.

*cough* Conservatives and George Soros. Yeah, its liberals who blame rich people all the time.

And conservative fucking imbeciles always like to suckle the teats and other parts of the rich, hoping they’ll get something delicious from their Wealthy Masters..why, they could maybe be rich themselves someday! Dream on, imbecile.

I have fed people in Mexico and fed entire communities in Jamaica fish. The United States doesn’t allow meat or animals alive or dead to be brought into the country without much grief.

Yes, you’re the world’s greatest humanitarian! Everybody knows about Buddy the Community Feeder! We should all bow down to your greatness!

Seek help.

Oh, please help me Buddy the Magnificent! Only you can help humanity with your awesome people-feeding skills! You are a god amongst men, Buddy!

Look jackass you need to listen to people that are experienced in this area. I can tell you that animals and fish that I have harvested have gone to feed people. You can play the doubtful smart ass but it just makes you look uninformed. Act like you have been somewhere.

I am an experienced hunter and fisherman. I’ve been doing this stuff since 1970 and got my first gun at ten years old. I still have it. Stop pretending that you’re some sort of Great Humanitarian and just admit that you enjoy killing animals for fun. You know that you don’t go into these places to kill animals because you want to feed people. That’s complete bullshit and you know it.
You like shooting stuff and killing animals. I hunt and fish because I like the way wild game and fish tastes, and because I know where my food comes from. Going to other countries to kill animals that are endangered or at risk is selfish and stupid. Grow the fuck up.

Look, no one here said I didn’t enjoy hunting and this man has the right to hunt and enjoy it as well. You disagreed with the fact that animals don’t need to be culled and that they are wasted. Neither of these are accurate. I always never stated I was some great humanitarian. I hunt I don’t waste I don’t shoot anything that I or someone doesn’t eat. Your gross exaggerations are childish and I do not have further time to entertain them or you

Sure, you have every “right” to enjoy killing for the sake of killing. It’s legal, I suppose, though immoral.
And no, animals do not “need to be culled”. They’re disappearing due to people “enjoying” the “sport” of killing them. If you’re not going to eat what you kill, then it’s immoral and wrong. One should only kill to eat the animal themselves, otherwise it’s sick behavior.
No exaggerations, you just won’t admit that you enjoy seeing animals die for your own selfish pleasure. I don’t. I also take absolutely no pleasure at all in fetishizing guns, shooting them or knowing that I killed a creature.

Like you live there too.?? So everything you say is gospel.!! Come on, get off your high horse and study conservation and protection of animal habitats. You are preaching but know not of what you preach.!!…..

I am an educated and experienced conservationist. I own a forest preserve.
You’re just another kill-happy bigmouthed idiot.

Why so racist?

Sure let the highest bidders line up and shoot all that are left.. that should satisfy your research on hunts, eh?

So you can just pick and choose which ‘facts’ you want to use to support your own or your employer’s agenda. As long as you don’t lie you are being fair? Amusing. Like junk science – ‘I performed 2000 experiments to prove x is true, 1,999 said I was wrong but I never gave up!’ There is no truth anymore, just lies and more lies.

Then as it is opinion, you have no reason to call names or talk down someone for giving their opinion on an opinion.!!…..

How is he a monster?

Are you pro choice?

Huh?

A delusional conservative, no less, if he thinks Hillary would be polling at 10-20%. Another brainwashed automaton, lip-syncing the party lines.

Wow Pax…. Did you just criticize my grammar because you are incapable of coming up with a reason why I am wrong? You are a funny little troll. Last I checked Internet message boards more closely resemble verbal discourse… thus punctuation is secondary.

No, I criticized your grammar because I enjoyed the irony of you claiming to be some sort of journalism expert while not bothering to proofread your own comments. If you thought I was trying to say that an off-the-cuff blog like this one is journalism, you’re not reading very closely (something else a good journalist should do). If you think that editorializing has no place in journalism, then you have a pretty narrow, dim, and frankly boring view of journalism. Also, you’re clearly thin skinned.

Ya, those damn rich people! If they have $300 k to invest in a franchise they must be evil rich people! It’s not like they could have gotten a loan or sold all their investments or anything.

Or used their life savings.!!…..

I’m sure they didn’t take the 300k out of petty cash. Was probably a business loan. How many people investigate the personal lives of the business owners?

You are an idiot…. Deborah…. People work their whole lives just to afford the down payment on a loan to fund a small business. You are advocating the harm of innocent working people… if those franchises go under hundreds or thousands of people could be harmed or worse on the street. If you dont give a damn about the franchise owners the least you could do is give a damn about employees who are struggling to get by paycheck to paycheck….. The logic of you Liberals is absolutely stunning….. Btw even if all of the franchises go under Jimmy John will continue to hunt Animals will still die and literally thousands of working class people will be out of a job or worse.

You do realize what a franchise is right?? A Jimmy Johns franchise would be locally owned… If you are referring to independent businesses I can see what you are saying, but independent non chain companies always go bust next to a chain…. so really your boycott doesn’t hurt anyone except the poor working class stiff who is living paycheck to paycheck

So …. let’s see. Where can the poor African countries bring in millions of dollars to protect the animal ranges from the poachers? I got it. Why don’t you donate $350,000 to them to protect the other rhinos and elephants?

But it is a lot easier to condemn others than spend your own money to protect the animals isn’t it. As long as you feel good about yourself and you donate a few dollars to an environmental group.

Will you donate money to hire the guards on the ranges to fight off the poachers (because the poachers jump from country to country and have guns too)? Nope …. that means the endangered animals now will become extinct.

What ticks me off is that the aspect of “harvesting” wildlife DOES protect the wildlife… while most of the environmental agendas actually lead to innocent animals being brutally slaughtered …. but of course it has more with “feeling good” about yourself than actually protecting the animals.

Sorry, I’m for protecting the animals rather than making you feel good about yourself.

So what do you suggest?

You dont realize how extremely ignorant you sound,huh?

wg seattle = Ignorant liberal! from Seattle… go figure. I can tell from the pictures, those animals were rogue males… no longer breeding and they will kill any offspring. Didn’t know that did you…because you are ignorant of any fact. Hillbillies and Rednecks know more than you do!

No, you can’t tell that from the pictures and claiming you can makes you a BS artist.

PEOPLE, PEOPLE, PEOPLE…stop insulting each other for goodness sake. Calling people “Liberals, Hillbillies and Rednecks” simply because they have an opinion that differs from yours is crazy.

Debbie, you were sniping earlier, just a better form of ‘insulting’?

“Sniping”…WOW!

And belittling will do what to convince anyone?

Hey, go boycott Starbucks for buying coffee from the poor people in Kenya!

Well, I am not a hunter. But I know of a few that have spent thousands upon thousands of dollars to go and cull some animals, many which were sick, aggressive, or negatively affect the rest of it’s community. That money paid for licenses/permission on protected animals preserves, the same preserves which PROTECT the animals by providing security to combat indiscriminate poaching, is actually used to help sustain the populations. Hunting is not the same as poaching. Why do you think Game and Fish Depts. charge money to hunt and fish? It’s because that money is used to help retain animal populations in a regulatory body. Poachers do not pay, they do not contribute, they do not assist in the sustaining of animal populations. That is done by donors, and hunters.

By the way, I live in an area that has had to frequently cull animals in the past to combat transmission of disease (often by over populating), removing problem animals etc. When the DNR does it, they destroy the animals and any resources are wasted. It’s a net negative cash flow into the protection of the animals. When hunters are called in to do it, it’s cash positive for future preservation efforts. And they occasionally are allowed to keep the animal for processing.

Just wondering…do these “diseased” animals have a special way of letting you know THEY are the diseased animals when you shoot them?

Debbie all I have seen you do is stand on the sideline and snipe at others that voice their opinion. You remind me of the type of liberal that would say: HUNTERS SHOULD NOT HUNT ANIMALS, BECAUSE THAT IS MURDER, THEY SHOULD JUST GO TO THE SUPERMARKET AND BUY THEIR MEAT, THAT WAY NO ANIMAL GETS KILLED.
Really? God gave man dominion over the animals to properly manage them for our use. The managed hunts are proper management of these wild animals. None of which means one whit to a Liberal like you…Grow up or move to England…

First of all, you know absolutely NOTHING about me, you presume to. I am not against hunting, my father hunted Moose every year. I am not against fishing, we did that also. I am not a Liberal…another presumption on your part. I do not stand on the sidelines…I simply have an opionion! I am entitled to my opinion as you are yours. I have not been nasty to you, but you have been to me. Good day Sir…find someone else to berate. I will no longer be reading your messages. Too negative. Thanks though for your input. : )

Yes, some of them are obviously diseased by their actions and/or by visual appearance. However, I am also speaking of prevention by reducing populations in areas that are overpopulated, or that are experiencing diseases such as CWD, bird flu, etc.

Absolutely. Amen. Never met a hunter that truly had a set of balls. TThere’s a cartoon: 1st frame-hunter hides being tree as beat walks by. 2nd frame-beats turns his back and hunter shoots him. Next frame- beat stuffed in attack position as guy tells story of facing the beat one on one. If you feel the need to hunt then him other hunters and we can smarten up the American gene pool.

Brian, You look at other dudes’ balls? Weird

What?

What in the hell are you trying to say? I can’t make any sense out of this paragraph.

You are an idiot

Good come back.

Brian … come here and see if I have Balls. FYI, most hunters are Veterans… and I don’t mean the kind Obama likes. Go back to your gay porn and children’s cartoons.

Ooooo nasty!

Won’t “smarten up American gene pool” until your removed

You’re

They kill helpless animals because they have small penises and it makes them feel big

Absolutely nothing wrong with my penis. I enjoy hunting and I like to feed my family. We depend on the meat and I need to kill at least ten mature white tails and a few hogs a year to maintain mine and my children’s families. We lawfully hunt, like this gentlemen, we enjoy the hunt and help maintain the species. Look at the feral hog situation in Louisiana and Texas especially.

So you think this guy is eating what he kills? That he has to do this to feed his family?
I will never understand poor people defending some rich schmuck as if his reasons are just like theirs.

Why do you hate rich people?

I don’t hate rich people. I hate douchebags who kill endangered species and think it makes them cool.

He did not say that the founder of JJ hunted to feed his family. Generally, the meat from these managed hunts go to the local African Tribes for their meat needs and the money for the license/fees go to manage the herds. What have YOU done to help these countries manage their herds? Just complain in a comment post?

What have YOU done?

Good response! I have a friend who supplies the meat for their family’s need by hunting and have helped lower the damage to farm crops by the overpopulation of White Tail Deer and Feral Hogs. We live in Missouri and the taxes we pay on firearms and ammunition alone go a long way in supporting these wild herds. What have these liberal tree-huggers done to support or mange these herds except take digital pictures and write blogs?

Deborah … because you have “penis issues” and possibly a rape victim, I suggest seeking a mental institution rather than disguising deep seated hatred for men and your lesbian tendencies in public forums.

you sound like a huge f*ck wad.

Wow, a woman says you have a small penis and she’s a RAPE victim or a LESBIAN…sad really!

Hush up and go fix me a sammich!

Really an intelligent comment.

Don’t need an excuse to hunt it is productive, economically and environmentally sound and protects the continuation of the species.

And your source for this is? *waits*

I don’t know about Terry, but I personally have watched documentaries on the subject. In a lot of cases, that is exactly where the money goes.

Before man was here they also had a lot more area to roam.

true

Africa is a continent comprised of 54 separate countries each with their own government and laws pertaining to game management. There is no money going to “the African government”. You have no clue what you’re talking about. I’ve seen starving animals due to over population which I’m sure was common when herds ran free before man..using your example. That’s how nature takes care of itself

Re-read what I said. I said African government, no mention of a country in Africa, just Africa as a whole. I don’t need you educating me on the difference between a continent and a country…I finished school. I do know what I’m talking about, you just don’t agree with me, which is fair. We don’t all have to agree on things. The fact that people, you included, feel it necessary to attack and berate those whose opinions do not match theirs is sad. Agree to disagree…no need to get nasty Sir.

But Debbie, didn’t you say that “Buddy” did not understand how things work? Implying that he is deficient in some way? You did need to be told that there are multiple countries involved, since they rarely work together in the management of their wildlife herd managements. I am not a hunter or fisherman, but I do understand Herd Management techniques and allowing ‘Nature’ to take it’s course is rarely the right way to go for the betterment of the managed species.

I did not “imply” anything I said to Buddy…you did. You “assume” you know what I’m thinking and what my words mean. You know what they say about “assume”.

Africa is a continent not a country, Africa is comprised of many countries, Kenya, Egypt, Ethiopia, Ghana, South Africa, Zimbabwe, etc. all with individual governments within the continent of Africa. The license monies got to the government of the country the hunter hunts in not to the continent of Africa. And yes culling is good for the animals due to limited wild spaces in the countries, they cannot let the animals population exceed a certain limit which will cause death to them by starvation and starvation is more horrendous than the hunt as most hunters try for clean kills so the animals don’t suffer unnecessarily. Therefore the hunts, and the country profits from the fees and most of the animal meat is given to the population for food, so therefore a win/win situation. Maintaining the animal population and feeding people in need. There is a similar deal here in the US where hunters donate their harvest to the needy so there is no waste…..

Another good answer…makes no sense at all, but good effort, lol.

You talk about “the African Government” as if it is a unified body …. Do yourself a favor and look at a map… you will see many lines which we call borders inside those lines specific organizations called governments make laws which govern the population living inside the borders of a country. If you are so fired up to stop hunting then maby you ought to get in touch with the government in the country in which he shot the wild game. Don’t come here and preach to those of us who had nothing to do with this hunt, that hunting is bad for nature….. Last I checked Humanity is a part of nature and as such our actions are by definition natural. Sorry you are upset these are facts.

Wow, having a rough day/week/month. I was not “preaching” to anyone, simply expressing my opinion, which I am entitled to as you are yours. By the way, I am not UPSET, I don’t get upset. I simply believe it is healthy to have conversation about these and other things. Sometimes, my opinion is even swayed to the other side. : )

Big beautiful creatures must be culled as well. We have to cull alligators in Louisiana to prevent them from cannibalizing other gators and rogue ones from threatening other animals and humans. So people pay for tags and ldwf monitors number killed and what area to maintain appropriate numbers to sustain species in specific areas. Grow up

So says HSUS and PETA…

I really got under your skin, eh?

Nothing he killed here is endangered

The black rhino is nearly extinct.

Your nearly correct then

? Your point??

What does that even mean? You’ll be satisfied when the animal is completely gone? If this planet is to survive it will require the sports hunting becomes extinct.

So now sport hunting is damaging the planet. If we didn’t hunt to planet would be overrun with starving animals. I have hunted on three continents. You need to get better information before just spouting off nonsense.

Where there lots of starving animals before there were sports hunters? I think nature handles this if left to her own devices. Sports hunters like you seem to be fixated on the most endangered animals on the planet.

So, you would rather let an animal go through the painful process of being starved rather than culling (harvesting) it for the consumption of humans? That is not management for betterment, because those animals that are allowed to starve to death become open to contracting disease that CAN be spread to healthy animals. Gain some knowledge on proper animal management, you are hurting too many others with your HSUS drivel.

You obviously do not have a clue how management works with wild animal herds. Please, study up on it, and not the drivel from HSUS of PETA…
Check in with the various State Departments of Conservation for it!

The elephants are endangered to near extinction. The way things are going, they will be forever removed from the planet by 2020. Do your homework!

The Rhino is not far behind the elephants.

Unsupported HSUS propaganda…

Do your homework! This is FACT. Have no idea who HSUS is and don’t follow PETA…so your point?

Even if it was endangered, those herds still need to be managed with the culling of animals that are not beneficial to the herd.

Now that’s “drivel”.

You Sir, have a brain. : ) Buddy doesn’t understand what “endangered” means.

Ahhh! Debbie, you succumb to the name calling too? “bfg” is just regurgitating information that is not supported by data on Planned Animal Herd Management Science.

????

Name calling, huh? I said Buddy did not understand what “endangered” meant…you call that name calling. Whatever!

It shows that you know nothing about wildlife management. Contact your State Department of Conservation about the reason for culling animals from the herd to strengthen the herd.

Whatever dude, clearly you have your opinion and I have mine.