Many people are claiming they’ll never eat at Jimmy John’s restaurant again after photos surfaced that show the company’s owner posing with animals killed on various trophy hunting expeditions.
Full disclosure, what you’re about to see might be disturbing.
Business Insider reports that Jimmy John Liataud has visited Africa several times to take part in big game hunting. Animals he’s hunted include elephants, zebras, leopards and rhinos.
Here, you can see Liataud posing with what Real Farmacy says is a ‘gravely endangered’ black rhino. The license Mr. Liataud purchased to kill the beast reportedly cost $350,000.
In this image, you can see Liataud posing with an elephant.
Between 2011 and 2014 alone, poachers killed a staggering 100,000 elephants. According to National Geographic, the beasts’ popularity among game hunters has brought them to the brink of extinction. Experts estimate that elephants could be completely extinct in Africa by 2020.
See more of the controversial images from Mr. Jimmy John’s African adventures in the video below.
Did this post surprise you? Is this controversy enough to make you stop eating at Jimmy John’s? Share your thoughts in the comments.
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First off, it’s his money! His business and his prerogative! He is paying through the nose to shoot one of these animals. He’s not the only one who does. At least he’s doing it legally. I don’t condone killing for sport but he’s not poaching. If you are going to hate the guy, make sure you have all the facts straight. I agree he’s a bit of a butthead, but I try not to judge.
And when their are no animals left to kill, then what? They are endangered, some close to extinction. No money justifies this.
They are not endangered. Many are raised and bred for hunting
So if I have too much money, I can go on rampage?
Your argument is invalid maam.
Jennifers argument is valid and unless your a vegetarian please do not condone a hunter. Most people that hunt elsewhere feed the meat to starving villages but of course this article won’t state that. The money goes to them, which they desperately need. If you don’t hunt and eat your meat from a store then you are the cruel one. Take a look at how and other companys treat those poor animals. I would rather the animal gotten have a full and good life before being served up, rather than abused.
It’s not about hunting. It’s about hunting endangered species. Plenty of people hunt animals that are not endangered, no one has issue with that. Get your shit together. This guy is garbage.
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Nothing he killed here was endangered
The hunting of these animals is no different that the hunting on the game ranches here in the USA, they are raised to be hunted, it is a business and people pay big bucks to do it. Those big game animals are raised for that purpose in Africa by big game ranches/.farms, what ever you what to call them, for the sole purpose of hunting and also to conserve the wild species by adding to them when possible. Big game hunting in Africa is a conservation of animals and habitat business. And the ones that are shot are done with conservation in mind.!!…..
if I earn it how is it “too much” ?
It’s his money yes, but it’s their lives. Living things, dead, for sport. Your argument is invalid. No matter how much money a person has, killing an animal just for the fun of it? Really?
Love to hunt and the animals are not wasted. Zebra in fact is delicious especially the blackstrap with taters and gravy
Buddy, you are talking about hunting for food. That’s very different than hunting for sport, taking a life for the sport of it. There really is no comparison.
and if it’s an animal close to extinction, continued Trophy Hunting might mean we don’t that animal on earth at all at some point. Gone. Forever.
Dumb cow.
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rude
Rude begets rude
Because that totally is right on par with a $350k license to hunt and kill an animal.
I spent time figuring out what email address I had made an account with and went through the process of resetting my password with sole purpose of telling you:
You’re an idiot.
Stop projecting your barbaric fetishes. Not only does she point out she’s seemingly on the same side as you in regard to killing endangered species, but she did it in a respectful manner that highlights there’s another side to this kind of debate. If you’re unwilling to acknowledge the other side’s point of view you are being small minded, and your post does nothing to constructively progress any kind of point of view. At best, all that can be discerned from your comment is that those opposed to killing endangered species have deranged thoughts about what they would like to do with their buddies. What are you even trying accomplish here?
Jesse’s point is perfectly clear. You can’t justify an atrocity by throwing money at it. It’s still an atrocity, it’s now just more expensive atrocity.
$350,000 to hunt a rhino? Since we’re justifying killing with money, how much to hunt a teenage girl?
If that disgusts you, welcome to how a lot of us feel about Jimmy Johns.
That would be illegal
I ate those sandwiches every once in a while as they were somewhat addictive in taste. I will certainly be going out of my way NOT to eat this anymore. It’s sad. The love of money and power really is a shame to our species.
This is BS. I will never eat there again. Subway or even better, the local sub shops (hot subs 24/7!) is even better.
Slaughtering animals is what this dirty human needs to feel like a man? Disgusting.
So you are a vegetarian Eco? Because if you eat meat, someone slaughters your meat. Then you buy it and eat it.
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How? the animal doesn’t keep their poo .Do you keep your poo? Just sayin … Also , I don’t condone killing endangered animals . I don’t think it’s very sportsman like .
Animals poop is used for fertilizer and doesn’t harm the animal . So why wouldn’t a vegan use it for their garden? they animals aren’t attached to it any more . Are you attached to your poo ? Are you feeling mistreated when you go poop? Just sayin….
No they also use parts of the animal for fertilizer and even for some animal’s food, like cattle, chickens…etc…..
And how do you get the ingredients for your Subway sub.?? Animals bred and raised for slaughter and if you have been to a slaughter house you may never eat any meat or fowl again. Just saying, you are being two faced about the whole thing.!!…..
He didn’t poach from what the article states about Jimmy John spending money to hunt the animals. Of course the article states all he does is kill them which should be questioned. Many hunters feed starving villages with the animals they hunt. All of the money goes to the area in which they hunt in to help them survive. So much more needs to be stated in here, more research. As for someone eating some where else, unless your a vegetarian your a hypocrite. What do you think? Your meat grows on trees? Have you ever looked into how animals are kept and treated on a meat farm? It is despicable!
Agree 100%. I’m laughing because I cant believe I read this article and then you commented on it! what a small world
You read the bullshit about how these animals “feed starving villages” and believe it. You are an imbecile. You also believe that somehow this Great White Hunter and other sick assholes like him are some sort of saviour to the poor people in the bush. You’re a fucking idiot who doesn’t want the truth, and wants to defend jerks who kill animals for fun.
You’re the brainless fool who needs to do more “research” instead of believing the garbage that right wing and “sport hunting” sites tell you.
“Meat farm”? Jesus fucking christ you have no idea about how animals are raised for food.
Learn about CAFOs and learn about the horrible waste these “hunters” create.
Interestingly enough there’s a lot of terrible propaganda surrounding this issue. He pays money to the community that homes the animal, ideally the community spends the money in order to provide a better habitat, medical treatment, and general experience for the animals living there. Whether or not they do that is up to them, but $350,000 could likely result in 10-20 endangered animals living and replacing the one that died.
Whether or not you believe that the money goes to treat the wildlife is up to you, as there’s no way of knowing without seeing the people who received it’s receipts. Regardless, the hunter gave the money to them, he likely doesn’t care what the money goes to but it is up to the people he pays to tend to the endangered species. You might think he is terrible due to the fact he is hunting for sport but his sport could potentially provide the money necessary to bring these animals back to a safe level of population. This article grossly represents the writers agenda and nothing more.
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It isn’t hard to figure out. They get $350,000 for protecting the wildlife. If they DON’T protect the animals … they won’t get any more money next year. I am sure it doesn’t all go to the village … but everyone is motivated to protect them … except for the poachers and environmentalists.
You think third world regimes are worried about sustainability?
Oh man, thanks for the laugh.
You really are a simple minded individual. You cant see past your naive view get over yourself. Nothing illegal. Because hes doing something you disagree with this guy is a monster. He is probably a great guy. But you really dont care about that. Keyboard warrior.
“Nothing illegal”! Well, that’s reassuring. Slavery used to be “legal”, so was hunting passenger pigeons, shooting as many bison as one wanted. All Legal!
Yes, of course to another murderous imbecile “Jimmy John” would seem to be a “great guy”. Maybe you can join up with your tubby, rich asshole hero and shoot all sorts of animals for “fun”.
you truly are a simple minded person
Well you certainly know how to scream and call people names, but your grasp of facts is sketchy. the meat does get donated to thenlocals, they do use it and need it, the licenses do help with wildlife management anti poaching efforts, which do more than safari tourism many areas without legal hunting experience more poaching and smaller more decimated animal populations becuase the locals see the wildlife as competition for resources instead of important to thier economy becuase of safari hunting. Facts supporting those positions are strong. you have changed no minds by insulting him every sentence.
Yes, I am quite good at that. I’m also quite informed and see that you too skim over articles about “trophy hunting”, or read them from a rich, asshole’s point of view. So great to see more Rich White Men helping out the little brown people, whatever would they do without their Rich White Saviors?
If you bothered to do any research yourself, you would find that eco-tourism is extremely important and duh.. “sustainable”. But mouthbreathers like you don’t like that word.
But please, tell us more about Africa and the villages and ecosystem, since you must live there.
@the wickerman. ummm, I have done hunts in Africa. CathyMike and Rumcrook are absolutely correct. The meat, if you do not want it, goes to the village. I personally took my meat. I saw it first hand. And you can see where the money goes for wildlife management and poaching efforts.
You are telling these people that what they have read is untrue. Have you been over there to see it first hand? No, you read crap posted online by animal rights activists spouting lies and hate against legal hunters. Your “research” is flawed and full of lies. Now go away until you actually know the truth
He’s a fool, he can’t even form a paragraph without calling people names in almost every sentence. his quest is to advance his religion which is leftwing doogoodery and part of his prayer call is to screech at non beleivers like us about how horrible we are so he can pat himself on the back for being suitably awsome in his ability to virtue signal fellow leftard doogooder co-religionists and they can all clutch thier pearls and revel in thier own awsomess while secretly buying “organically” raised steaks on a blue Styrofoam tray with a tampon underneath, at whole foods from an animal someone else had to kill.
But your name calling is acceptable. If these “sportsmen” are so altruistic they could donate $350K to the famished African villagers instead of engaging in the killing of animals for pleasure. It’s nothing more than sociopaths engaging in bloodlust.
FIRST he went on a long attack calling names right off the bat, everything he got in return was a response. Second Your puting up a straw man to nock down. NO one said they were altruistic they are using thier money to enjoy thier lives, they could do lots of things with thier money none of which would end up in a village in africa so this is it take it or leave it. as for the sociopaths comment it’s hyperbolic nonsense. Lastly I love the fact that Lilly white leftists want to decide what’s right and good for generally impoverished 3rd world countries and once you got your way and somehow got rid of westerners buying hunts in africa and they were a lot more impoverished people just like you would go happily on your way secure in the knowledge you virtue signaled how awsome you are. AS usual never looking back at the mess and devestation you helped create in the vacuum.
You don’t live there either you sanctimonious jerk. boohoo clutch my pearls and talk about the white man and little brown people, and hyperventilate while patting myself on the back for virtue signaling how awsome I am. I laugh at people like you.
And I the way I’ve read articles that detailed how photo safaris non hunt safaris unfortunately do not bring in enough money to replace hunting and that money is needed for wildlife management and anti poaching efforts wetter you like it or not. IT’S the same in the United states, 99 percent of the ones used to manage and maintain wildlife and the programs around them come from revenues from hunting and permits. AND left wing causes and non profits do virtually nothing compared with that. and thier is no way around that fact for you.
Those damn rich people! Libtards always find a way to blame the evil rich people.
*cough* Conservatives and George Soros. Yeah, its liberals who blame rich people all the time.
And conservative fucking imbeciles always like to suckle the teats and other parts of the rich, hoping they’ll get something delicious from their Wealthy Masters..why, they could maybe be rich themselves someday! Dream on, imbecile.
I have fed people in Mexico and fed entire communities in Jamaica fish. The United States doesn’t allow meat or animals alive or dead to be brought into the country without much grief.
Yes, you’re the world’s greatest humanitarian! Everybody knows about Buddy the Community Feeder! We should all bow down to your greatness!
Seek help.
Oh, please help me Buddy the Magnificent! Only you can help humanity with your awesome people-feeding skills! You are a god amongst men, Buddy!
Look jackass you need to listen to people that are experienced in this area. I can tell you that animals and fish that I have harvested have gone to feed people. You can play the doubtful smart ass but it just makes you look uninformed. Act like you have been somewhere.
I am an experienced hunter and fisherman. I’ve been doing this stuff since 1970 and got my first gun at ten years old. I still have it. Stop pretending that you’re some sort of Great Humanitarian and just admit that you enjoy killing animals for fun. You know that you don’t go into these places to kill animals because you want to feed people. That’s complete bullshit and you know it.
You like shooting stuff and killing animals. I hunt and fish because I like the way wild game and fish tastes, and because I know where my food comes from. Going to other countries to kill animals that are endangered or at risk is selfish and stupid. Grow the fuck up.
Look, no one here said I didn’t enjoy hunting and this man has the right to hunt and enjoy it as well. You disagreed with the fact that animals don’t need to be culled and that they are wasted. Neither of these are accurate. I always never stated I was some great humanitarian. I hunt I don’t waste I don’t shoot anything that I or someone doesn’t eat. Your gross exaggerations are childish and I do not have further time to entertain them or you
Sure, you have every “right” to enjoy killing for the sake of killing. It’s legal, I suppose, though immoral.
And no, animals do not “need to be culled”. They’re disappearing due to people “enjoying” the “sport” of killing them. If you’re not going to eat what you kill, then it’s immoral and wrong. One should only kill to eat the animal themselves, otherwise it’s sick behavior.
No exaggerations, you just won’t admit that you enjoy seeing animals die for your own selfish pleasure. I don’t. I also take absolutely no pleasure at all in fetishizing guns, shooting them or knowing that I killed a creature.
Like you live there too.?? So everything you say is gospel.!! Come on, get off your high horse and study conservation and protection of animal habitats. You are preaching but know not of what you preach.!!…..
I am an educated and experienced conservationist. I own a forest preserve.
You’re just another kill-happy bigmouthed idiot.
Why so racist?
Such a well thought out and totally uneducated rant by a complete jackass. Nice language too
Thank you! It is a wonderful post.
I have fed many with the animals I kill
Sure you have. And I give away millions of dollars in vegetables to the poor.
Are you suggesting that killing endangered animals for locals to eat the meat make this type of shit justifiable?
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what a bunch of bs… so as long as they pay money, it’s ok to kill endangered species.. what a crock…
Nothing endangered has been killed here
Drink more kool aid
This is Awesome… I never have eaten non breakfast food in the morning, but now I’ll have to make a special trip. Factoid: do you know that endangered species kill more individuals than we kill of them in a year… it’s survival of the fittest babe-y.. and I know you understand David coz you like your UFC (lived with a gal recently who volunteered at one of your events.. and you were all into it backstage.. yeah.. violence against humans totally cool, animals not so much.. especially defenseless Rhino’s, Elephants and such..
This kind of thing makes me despair of the human race! I don’t care that he’s doing nothing illegal, this is immoral and unethical!
How so?
I will go out of my way to get a Jimmy Johns today, for sure! I’m all for PETA, people for eating tasty animals!
do you know if these are planned cullings? sick or dangerous animals which need to be culled for the sake of enlarging the population? because a lot of the planned and paid for hunts target animals which are killed mercifully for protection of people or the animal population. the article didnt say. does anyone know the details?
Don’t see a problem with this it’s his hard earned money. Those animals are selected by the govt and local wildlife officer for a reason. Plus none of the animals go to waste. Liberals wouldn’t know that because they research what happens to the animals after they are humanely taken. More jimmy johns please
Well said cmac. No one bothers to research and learn that these are usually rogue and dangerous animals or selective thinning of a herd to make it stronger. But the libs don’t care about that they would much rather destroy human life than animal. I’m surprised they haven’t threatened to kill JJ. Or they probably have but that wouldn’t be journalism that would merely be justice for the all mighty animal kingdom, animal lives are more important than human life to these extremist
there are only approx 5,000 black rhino’s left in the world (as of a year ago, 2015) and no white rhino’s left.. they have gone extinct, thanks to poaching and selective hunts that the governments allowed… how much more selective thinning of the herds to help make them stronger do you think endangered species can endure, hmm? Just since the 70s and 80s, the world has seen the loss of a number of animals that people thought were fun to kill for sport.. Baiji River Dolphins, Javan Tiger, Bubal Hartebeest, Pyrenean Ibex, Caribbean Monk Seal.. to name a few.. extinct..!! they survived until people encroaching on habitat and killing for sport decided for entire species that they should no longer exist.. tell us again about liberals and what they’ve wrought on the the world you live in…
So what your saying is we should let the animals inbreed with each other causing birth defects and diseases in the herd that will eventually kill them all of anyways. Actually do the research about these hunts and why they are allowed then you can talk about the hunting of these. I understand there is mammals/animals that are extinct from poaching but that is a totally different discussion. I don’t agree with poaching but a legal kill is a legal kill.
Sure let the highest bidders line up and shoot all that are left.. that should satisfy your research on hunts, eh?
Surprisingly enough I had a few comments that were threatening to find me and kill me because I don’t believe in the ethical treatment of animals. A lot of people are very stupid! If they simply did the research they would probably understand. Maybe not though
there’s been a number of investigations showing the “great white hunter swoops in to feed starving village his dangerous kill” narrative to be purely fiction.
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The store owners are FRANCHISE owners. Mom and Pops that put up $50,000-100,000 for that store. They have NOTHING to do with the owners actions. He already got his money from them.
Boycotting the stores hurts REAL people who have done none of this to which you object. They probably don’t agree with them.
Yet like most employees of companies do you agree with your company owner completely? Yet you still work there.
Aren’t journalist supposed to cover all sides of the story?
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No. Journalists are supposed to be fair in how they report the facts. There’s absolutely nothing that says a reporter should cover ‘all’ sides of the story. That’s not even possible.
True, I bet we can guess what the animal “side” would be.
Absolutely nothing that says a reporter should cover all sides of a story? Really? Well, try ETHICS. You are not FAIRLY “reporting the facts” unless you report ALL the pertinent facts, or at least as close to that ideal as is reasonably possible. Like, for instance, the fact that the store owner you boycott may have no culpability in this behavior whatsoever. Personally, I abhor the slaughter of wildlife as much as anyone, and have no problem with heat being brought to bear on this jerk, but people – those franchisees – deserve the benefit of fair, ethical and just reporting as well.
First of all, this isn’t journalism. It’s a blog post. Second, even if it WERE journalism, it’s clearly opinion/editorial, in which case the journalist is under no ethical obligation, whatsoever, to mention anything about possible economic ramifications of a boycott for franchise owners. Thirdly, even if it weren’t op/ed or a blog post, if it WERE an actual news piece, there still wouldn’t be any need to talk about that, since a news piece wouldn’t be CALLING for a boycott in the first place. You clearly don’t understand the difference between being ‘fair,’ which is a valid journalistic standard, and being ‘balanced,’ which is nonsense and something that needs to disappear from journalism anyway, since it really is an impossibility.
So you can just pick and choose which ‘facts’ you want to use to support your own or your employer’s agenda. As long as you don’t lie you are being fair? Amusing. Like junk science – ‘I performed 2000 experiments to prove x is true, 1,999 said I was wrong but I never gave up!’ There is no truth anymore, just lies and more lies.
Then as it is opinion, you have no reason to call names or talk down someone for giving their opinion on an opinion.!!…..
There’s also this to consider: As a franchisee, one pays a good sum to the parent company. A boycott of Jimmy John’s, while it may not hurt the parent company immediately, surely would eventually, since as the business fails, fewer and fewer people buy franchises. Not only that, but most franchisees pay a yearly fee or a percentage basis to the parent company. Those people have chosen to buy a franchise from a monster–they reap what they sow.
How is he a monster?
If you want to go the ETHICS route, STOP THE KILLING OF NEAR EXTINCT animals. That would be ethical!
Are you pro choice?
Huh?
You mean the way “journalists” are covering the election? If the so called journalists covered this election the way they should be, Hillary Clinton would be polling in the 10-20% range. There is no longer any such thing as a journalist, they are called political hacks now!
As far as hunting goes, ban deer hunting in the USA for 2 seasons. The results would be starved and disease riddled deer lying dead everywhere, vegetation stripped clean, which would lead to all other plant eating animal starving and dying. Predator populations would explode, and attacks on humans would elevate.
This is a perfect example of the all-around ignorance of the Left in this country, and explains why every idea they come up with fails. Liberals base their every action off of emotions instead of well thought out rationale, like an adult(Conservative) would. Example, do I necessarily like the thought of people hunting strictly for sport? No, but I also don’t get pissed off about it. I did some quick research and this is what I found. Africa is an arid continent, that usually relies on seasonal rains for any greenery. During the rainy season, food is aplenty, but, during the 10-11 month dry season food and water becomes very scarce. As a result hundreds of elephants die of starvation each year because, the habitat can’t support the surplus elephants. So you see, if they aren’t harvested, nature will harvest them. I will assure you a bullet is less cruel than starving to death!
Moral of this story is, liberals should try living in the world of reality and truths, then maybe the ideas they come up with would actually succeed instead of failing as assuredly as the sun coming up every morning!
Leave it to a real “adult (Conservative)” to turn this into a political rant against Liberals.
A delusional conservative, no less, if he thinks Hillary would be polling at 10-20%. Another brainwashed automaton, lip-syncing the party lines.
Are you naturally this stupid, or have you had professional training?
How dare these liberals look to a free market solution and vote with their own dollars. And that media, right, they never report anything bad about Hillary, right?
Wrong … all a journalist is supposed to do is report, WHO, WHAT, WHERE, and WHEN (For all Parties involved)….. anything beyond that is opinion editorializing not journalism…. In reality a reporter should not cover any “side” of the story.
But hey its a brave new world and the left is always redefining the meaning of words so maby things have changed since I was in school for journalism.
Quite possible. For example, these days they teach that punctuation and proper grammar are important.
Wow Pax…. Did you just criticize my grammar because you are incapable of coming up with a reason why I am wrong? You are a funny little troll. Last I checked Internet message boards more closely resemble verbal discourse… thus punctuation is secondary.
No, I criticized your grammar because I enjoyed the irony of you claiming to be some sort of journalism expert while not bothering to proofread your own comments. If you thought I was trying to say that an off-the-cuff blog like this one is journalism, you’re not reading very closely (something else a good journalist should do). If you think that editorializing has no place in journalism, then you have a pretty narrow, dim, and frankly boring view of journalism. Also, you’re clearly thin skinned.
they pay a franchising fee to him
Mom and Pop can always run a different franchise for their sandwiches or even go independent. Regardless of who runs each individual shop, by eating a JJ you are supporting Jimmy John Liautaud’s corporation as the CEO.
Harley, you don’t understand franchising at all. Mom and Pop can’t afford to throw away their $30,000 up front franchising fee and the agreement would probably require them to vacate their store if the turned back their franchise. Also, they probably couldn’t open a new store within a certain distance. Independent shops also are at a disadvantage against chains.
You are asking us to hurt Mom and Pop a LOT so we can hurt JJ a little.
If mom and pop have $300k, they aren’t suffering. Maybe they should have researched before they aid down that kind of cash.
Ya, those damn rich people! If they have $300 k to invest in a franchise they must be evil rich people! It’s not like they could have gotten a loan or sold all their investments or anything.
Or used their life savings.!!…..
I’m sure they didn’t take the 300k out of petty cash. Was probably a business loan. How many people investigate the personal lives of the business owners?
You are an idiot…. Deborah…. People work their whole lives just to afford the down payment on a loan to fund a small business. You are advocating the harm of innocent working people… if those franchises go under hundreds or thousands of people could be harmed or worse on the street. If you dont give a damn about the franchise owners the least you could do is give a damn about employees who are struggling to get by paycheck to paycheck….. The logic of you Liberals is absolutely stunning….. Btw even if all of the franchises go under Jimmy John will continue to hunt Animals will still die and literally thousands of working class people will be out of a job or worse.
There are plenty of locally owned places that I can support instead. The flip side of your argument is that you are hurting local businesses by taking a dollar from them to hand 85 cents to someone who owns a franchise from this douchebag.
You do realize what a franchise is right?? A Jimmy Johns franchise would be locally owned… If you are referring to independent businesses I can see what you are saying, but independent non chain companies always go bust next to a chain…. so really your boycott doesn’t hurt anyone except the poor working class stiff who is living paycheck to paycheck
You’re being ridiculous. He will still hunt, and the money the African government gets for those hunts goes into funding for fighting poaching, and conservation of the lands and animals. The herds have to be culled, and the government opens up a certain amount of tags for these hunts. They are told exactly what animals to shoot, and are supervised. The government has to pay people to cull these animals if they are not getting money through Safari hunts, and that money comes out of the conservation budgets. These animals are taken for many reasons, and not just left laying in the dirt after the hunt. Not buying a sub at a sub shop will not change that.
blah blah blah on how it helps fighting poaching.. PEOPLE LIKE THIS MAN ARE THE ONES KILLING THEM ALONG WITH THE POACHERS. If you think all the money taken for these licenses is benevolently spent on saving endangered animals, you’re crazy.. they have found the money put toward fighting poaching is miniscule, while the huge amounts for these licenses line the pockets of the very few in the food chain that supports killing animals for money….
So …. let’s see. Where can the poor African countries bring in millions of dollars to protect the animal ranges from the poachers? I got it. Why don’t you donate $350,000 to them to protect the other rhinos and elephants?
But it is a lot easier to condemn others than spend your own money to protect the animals isn’t it. As long as you feel good about yourself and you donate a few dollars to an environmental group.
Will you donate money to hire the guards on the ranges to fight off the poachers (because the poachers jump from country to country and have guns too)? Nope …. that means the endangered animals now will become extinct.
What ticks me off is that the aspect of “harvesting” wildlife DOES protect the wildlife… while most of the environmental agendas actually lead to innocent animals being brutally slaughtered …. but of course it has more with “feeling good” about yourself than actually protecting the animals.
Sorry, I’m for protecting the animals rather than making you feel good about yourself.
So what do you suggest?
You dont realize how extremely ignorant you sound,huh?
wg seattle = Ignorant liberal! from Seattle… go figure. I can tell from the pictures, those animals were rogue males… no longer breeding and they will kill any offspring. Didn’t know that did you…because you are ignorant of any fact. Hillbillies and Rednecks know more than you do!
No, you can’t tell that from the pictures and claiming you can makes you a BS artist.
PEOPLE, PEOPLE, PEOPLE…stop insulting each other for goodness sake. Calling people “Liberals, Hillbillies and Rednecks” simply because they have an opinion that differs from yours is crazy.
Debbie, you were sniping earlier, just a better form of ‘insulting’?
“Sniping”…WOW!
And belittling will do what to convince anyone?
Hey, go boycott Starbucks for buying coffee from the poor people in Kenya!
Judging for what you are saying, it looks like you are a HUNTER too… Hunters find any excuse to keep killing animals, like those bureaucratic guidelines you are mentioning from “governments”-by they way, are they real?-. Many species of animals in Africa and in other continents are being decimated, and on the brink of extinction. But hunters still find their excuses…
Well, I am not a hunter. But I know of a few that have spent thousands upon thousands of dollars to go and cull some animals, many which were sick, aggressive, or negatively affect the rest of it’s community. That money paid for licenses/permission on protected animals preserves, the same preserves which PROTECT the animals by providing security to combat indiscriminate poaching, is actually used to help sustain the populations. Hunting is not the same as poaching. Why do you think Game and Fish Depts. charge money to hunt and fish? It’s because that money is used to help retain animal populations in a regulatory body. Poachers do not pay, they do not contribute, they do not assist in the sustaining of animal populations. That is done by donors, and hunters.
By the way, I live in an area that has had to frequently cull animals in the past to combat transmission of disease (often by over populating), removing problem animals etc. When the DNR does it, they destroy the animals and any resources are wasted. It’s a net negative cash flow into the protection of the animals. When hunters are called in to do it, it’s cash positive for future preservation efforts. And they occasionally are allowed to keep the animal for processing.
Just wondering…do these “diseased” animals have a special way of letting you know THEY are the diseased animals when you shoot them?
Debbie all I have seen you do is stand on the sideline and snipe at others that voice their opinion. You remind me of the type of liberal that would say: HUNTERS SHOULD NOT HUNT ANIMALS, BECAUSE THAT IS MURDER, THEY SHOULD JUST GO TO THE SUPERMARKET AND BUY THEIR MEAT, THAT WAY NO ANIMAL GETS KILLED.
Really? God gave man dominion over the animals to properly manage them for our use. The managed hunts are proper management of these wild animals. None of which means one whit to a Liberal like you…Grow up or move to England…
First of all, you know absolutely NOTHING about me, you presume to. I am not against hunting, my father hunted Moose every year. I am not against fishing, we did that also. I am not a Liberal…another presumption on your part. I do not stand on the sidelines…I simply have an opionion! I am entitled to my opinion as you are yours. I have not been nasty to you, but you have been to me. Good day Sir…find someone else to berate. I will no longer be reading your messages. Too negative. Thanks though for your input. : )
Yes, some of them are obviously diseased by their actions and/or by visual appearance. However, I am also speaking of prevention by reducing populations in areas that are overpopulated, or that are experiencing diseases such as CWD, bird flu, etc.
Absolutely. Amen. Never met a hunter that truly had a set of balls. TThere’s a cartoon: 1st frame-hunter hides being tree as beat walks by. 2nd frame-beats turns his back and hunter shoots him. Next frame- beat stuffed in attack position as guy tells story of facing the beat one on one. If you feel the need to hunt then him other hunters and we can smarten up the American gene pool.
Brian, You look at other dudes’ balls? Weird
What?
What in the hell are you trying to say? I can’t make any sense out of this paragraph.
You are an idiot
Good come back.
Brian … come here and see if I have Balls. FYI, most hunters are Veterans… and I don’t mean the kind Obama likes. Go back to your gay porn and children’s cartoons.
Ooooo nasty!
Won’t “smarten up American gene pool” until your removed
You’re
They kill helpless animals because they have small penises and it makes them feel big
Absolutely nothing wrong with my penis. I enjoy hunting and I like to feed my family. We depend on the meat and I need to kill at least ten mature white tails and a few hogs a year to maintain mine and my children’s families. We lawfully hunt, like this gentlemen, we enjoy the hunt and help maintain the species. Look at the feral hog situation in Louisiana and Texas especially.
So you think this guy is eating what he kills? That he has to do this to feed his family?
I will never understand poor people defending some rich schmuck as if his reasons are just like theirs.
Why do you hate rich people?
I don’t hate rich people. I hate douchebags who kill endangered species and think it makes them cool.
He did not say that the founder of JJ hunted to feed his family. Generally, the meat from these managed hunts go to the local African Tribes for their meat needs and the money for the license/fees go to manage the herds. What have YOU done to help these countries manage their herds? Just complain in a comment post?
What have YOU done?
Good response! I have a friend who supplies the meat for their family’s need by hunting and have helped lower the damage to farm crops by the overpopulation of White Tail Deer and Feral Hogs. We live in Missouri and the taxes we pay on firearms and ammunition alone go a long way in supporting these wild herds. What have these liberal tree-huggers done to support or mange these herds except take digital pictures and write blogs?
Deborah … because you have “penis issues” and possibly a rape victim, I suggest seeking a mental institution rather than disguising deep seated hatred for men and your lesbian tendencies in public forums.
you sound like a huge f*ck wad.
Wow, a woman says you have a small penis and she’s a RAPE victim or a LESBIAN…sad really!
Hush up and go fix me a sammich!
Really an intelligent comment.
Don’t need an excuse to hunt it is productive, economically and environmentally sound and protects the continuation of the species.
Baloney . The money they get for those hunts goes to corrupt African governments.
And your source for this is? *waits*
I don’t know about Terry, but I personally have watched documentaries on the subject. In a lot of cases, that is exactly where the money goes.
This all sounds good, however, the reason(s) these idiots are able to obtain licenses to kill these magnificent creatures, who are NEAR EXTINCTION, does not matter. Are so you naive as to believe the money the African government receives goes back into “funding poaching and conservation of the lands and animals”? We’re not talking about Coyotes or Deer or Wolves, that are culled. We are talking about big, beautiful creatures that we (man) is depleting to the point of non-existence from this planet. Think about it, herds were here long before man and were never “culled”. Nature takes care of itself, but MAN in his infinite wisdom, believes they know better than nature!
Before man was here they also had a lot more area to roam.
true
Africa is a continent comprised of 54 separate countries each with their own government and laws pertaining to game management. There is no money going to “the African government”. You have no clue what you’re talking about. I’ve seen starving animals due to over population which I’m sure was common when herds ran free before man..using your example. That’s how nature takes care of itself
Re-read what I said. I said African government, no mention of a country in Africa, just Africa as a whole. I don’t need you educating me on the difference between a continent and a country…I finished school. I do know what I’m talking about, you just don’t agree with me, which is fair. We don’t all have to agree on things. The fact that people, you included, feel it necessary to attack and berate those whose opinions do not match theirs is sad. Agree to disagree…no need to get nasty Sir.
But Debbie, didn’t you say that “Buddy” did not understand how things work? Implying that he is deficient in some way? You did need to be told that there are multiple countries involved, since they rarely work together in the management of their wildlife herd managements. I am not a hunter or fisherman, but I do understand Herd Management techniques and allowing ‘Nature’ to take it’s course is rarely the right way to go for the betterment of the managed species.
I did not “imply” anything I said to Buddy…you did. You “assume” you know what I’m thinking and what my words mean. You know what they say about “assume”.
Africa is a continent not a country, Africa is comprised of many countries, Kenya, Egypt, Ethiopia, Ghana, South Africa, Zimbabwe, etc. all with individual governments within the continent of Africa. The license monies got to the government of the country the hunter hunts in not to the continent of Africa. And yes culling is good for the animals due to limited wild spaces in the countries, they cannot let the animals population exceed a certain limit which will cause death to them by starvation and starvation is more horrendous than the hunt as most hunters try for clean kills so the animals don’t suffer unnecessarily. Therefore the hunts, and the country profits from the fees and most of the animal meat is given to the population for food, so therefore a win/win situation. Maintaining the animal population and feeding people in need. There is a similar deal here in the US where hunters donate their harvest to the needy so there is no waste…..
Another good answer…makes no sense at all, but good effort, lol.
You talk about “the African Government” as if it is a unified body …. Do yourself a favor and look at a map… you will see many lines which we call borders inside those lines specific organizations called governments make laws which govern the population living inside the borders of a country. If you are so fired up to stop hunting then maby you ought to get in touch with the government in the country in which he shot the wild game. Don’t come here and preach to those of us who had nothing to do with this hunt, that hunting is bad for nature….. Last I checked Humanity is a part of nature and as such our actions are by definition natural. Sorry you are upset these are facts.
Wow, having a rough day/week/month. I was not “preaching” to anyone, simply expressing my opinion, which I am entitled to as you are yours. By the way, I am not UPSET, I don’t get upset. I simply believe it is healthy to have conversation about these and other things. Sometimes, my opinion is even swayed to the other side. : )
Big beautiful creatures must be culled as well. We have to cull alligators in Louisiana to prevent them from cannibalizing other gators and rogue ones from threatening other animals and humans. So people pay for tags and ldwf monitors number killed and what area to maintain appropriate numbers to sustain species in specific areas. Grow up
So says HSUS and PETA…
I really got under your skin, eh?
You don’t cull endangered animals. That’s total crap.
Nothing he killed here is endangered
The black rhino is nearly extinct.
Your nearly correct then
? Your point??
What does that even mean? You’ll be satisfied when the animal is completely gone? If this planet is to survive it will require the sports hunting becomes extinct.
So now sport hunting is damaging the planet. If we didn’t hunt to planet would be overrun with starving animals. I have hunted on three continents. You need to get better information before just spouting off nonsense.
Where there lots of starving animals before there were sports hunters? I think nature handles this if left to her own devices. Sports hunters like you seem to be fixated on the most endangered animals on the planet.
So, you would rather let an animal go through the painful process of being starved rather than culling (harvesting) it for the consumption of humans? That is not management for betterment, because those animals that are allowed to starve to death become open to contracting disease that CAN be spread to healthy animals. Gain some knowledge on proper animal management, you are hurting too many others with your HSUS drivel.
You obviously do not have a clue how management works with wild animal herds. Please, study up on it, and not the drivel from HSUS of PETA…
Check in with the various State Departments of Conservation for it!
The elephants are endangered to near extinction. The way things are going, they will be forever removed from the planet by 2020. Do your homework!
The Rhino is not far behind the elephants.
Unsupported HSUS propaganda…
Do your homework! This is FACT. Have no idea who HSUS is and don’t follow PETA…so your point?
Even if it was endangered, those herds still need to be managed with the culling of animals that are not beneficial to the herd.
Now that’s “drivel”.
You Sir, have a brain. : ) Buddy doesn’t understand what “endangered” means.
Ahhh! Debbie, you succumb to the name calling too? “bfg” is just regurgitating information that is not supported by data on Planned Animal Herd Management Science.
????
Name calling, huh? I said Buddy did not understand what “endangered” meant…you call that name calling. Whatever!
It shows that you know nothing about wildlife management. Contact your State Department of Conservation about the reason for culling animals from the herd to strengthen the herd.
Whatever dude, clearly you have your opinion and I have mine.
What a ridiculus concept ….. killing for conservation. It just doesn’t work that way. Mike, you look at those animals in the pics above and call that culling? Give me a f&*% ing break!
It absolutely works that way. Do the research. I have been hunting for over forty years all over the world. There are a lot of places where without hunting entire species have died off due to disease, starvation and poaching.
My point exactly. The reason the animal was marked to be culled is not know to the complainer. Managed hunts have proven results in strengthening herds of animals.
You do not know the reasons that the animal is/was marked to be culled. You are not speaking from an informed point…
“Herds have to be culled”.
We’re talking about black rhinos and elephants. No, they don’t have to be culled. They’re being slaughtered to the brink of extinction. This isn’t the same as hunting deer or feral hogs, and you just sound ridiculously ignorant trying to make that comparison.
Every herd needs to be culled! Even endangered animals have members of their herd that are not adding to the benefit of the herd.
??? blah, blah, blah blah
Tell me, where did you get your degree in biodiversity? Because I have a friend who is a zookeeper and he says you’re wrong. Endangered species need all of the members they can keep – even the ones who don’t reproduce, because of kinship selection.
But, not a rhetorical question – please do tell me where your advice comes from.
You can’t teach stupid liberals common sense. Don’t waste you time.
David Wolfe isn’t a journalist. He’s a pseudoscience nutjob who should be ignored.
yeah but honestly you could make that article to justify not holding a brand accountable for anything, there are always little people that suffer from corporate malfeasance, but that doesn’t mean this information shouldn’t be spread and the market gets to decide whether or not to punish the brand. I mean wal-mart workers would be hurt if you boycotted wal-mart for killing all the mom-n-pop shops and treating their employees badly, but it’s also the only way to see progress and better business ethics.
Yes, but their franchises make this guy rich enough to engage in his prurient activities….so shutting them down is stopping him as well. Perhaps they should have considered other franchise opportunities.
I am sure it would be okay even if you owned one of the franchises, huh.?? You’d feel the same as you do now, right.??…………
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How dare people vote with their dollars and where they spend them. Where did these bleeding heart liberals get such free market ideas?
You don’t tell the story in its entirety. Franchise owners pay a monthly fee, based on gross revenues, to the franchisor. Yes, he no doubt got a lot of money up front from store owners, but he is still raking it in from them. Boycotting these restaurants will no doubt hurt the owners but also has an impact on Liataud. Leaving that out, you do fail to cover all sides of the story, as well.
Which is why you shouldnt be able to sell off the name of your company to third parties. Small businesses now must feed off of entrepreneurs that are already established. Capitalistic icons, like this, only serve to undermine ethical restraints ‘normal’ people must follow. If you’re looking to own a business, do it in your own name.
Yeah cause I would seek out a Corey’s before a subway or jimmy johns. This whole goofy franchise thing has failed terribly for McDonald’s and Burger King
The franchises do pay continuing fees to the owner. Find someone to explain to you hos the business model works.
As for covering “all sides of the story”, the rhinos and elephants weren’t available for comment. They were too busy being hunted to the brink of extinction.
When one side is “rich douche kills endangered animals because poor countries need the money”, there isn’t another side.
They are still getting royalties from the franchisee. It absolutely affects JJ
No problem with me….legal hunting is legal; and we love Jimmy Johns. They make great, fresh sandwiches.
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Although I do love jimmy johns sandwiches I will never eat there again. I love animals more and for you to kill them for sport is wrong in my opinion. I will share this with as many people as i can until you can’t afford to go on your useless selfish hunts.
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Who cares… sounds like a bunch of whiney liberal pussies bitching about the fact that this guy is rich and running a successful company and they are just lazy and suck at life.
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I just had a killer sub from JJs and I will do it again tomorrow. Get off your hi horse and The animals that are targeted is sick or wounded one that are marked for this kind of hunting.
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I don’t know, if I had a “hi horse” I might want to stay on it and find a way to profit. Is that “hi” in waving or some other indication? :D
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I don’t have a problem with this either. These countries sell these REALLY expensive permits to kill endangered animals and then use that money to stop poachers. So 1 legal kill may stop 20 illegal kills. So long as it’s done the right way and he’s paying the tab…….hunt away.
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The reason elephants have BEEN on the endangered species list isn’t because of “big game” hunters, it’s because of African poachers that hunt them to sell the ivory. I’ve been hearing that they’re on the brink of extinction for thirty years. And I’m to believe that there’s been 100,000 of them killed in four years? BULLSHIT!!!!
And who gives a flying fuck what this dude does? At least he’s not cappin people in Chicago. But hey…..that’s not news. Fuckin people…..
Never eaten at Jimmy Johns but since the Lib media says it’s bad, I think I’m going to go try it out :)
I say can I get a #9 with hot peppers, a large sweet tea, and a bag of Jalapeño Jimmy chips?
Personally I dont agree with hunting, not even a tiny bit, however I am not the one doing it nor do I have any control over the one who is. I love Jimmy Johns, the food is good and the employees at the one in my town are delightful. These are business that are owned by other people, franchise owners, people like me and you, who are not millionaires who are the ones first and foremost that will be directly effected by the sudden lack of business. Local people who work for them may find them self’s without jobs, family’s will directly suffer. Trash News like this does nothing but shed light on how selfish and judgmental we have become. I dont like what one man has done with money I willingly put in his pockets in trade for a meal, so I am going to condemn, possibly, thousands of others for his and my own actions.
Well you are probably right about the money, but i know people that have killee big game in africathey take the trophy, they get to eat some of the meat, the rest goes to the locals, unless its a bunch of lazy skinnys that dont wanna work for free food… the money is probably squandered by the government just like anywhereelse in the world, the rest might depend on where you are, but i believe people i know more than some hippie makin claims based on anything Nat Geo has put out recebtly
david need to watch the adam ruins everything video about trophy hunting.
But in the minds of a brain dead liberal it’s OK to abort a full term pregnancy. Liberals truly are a special kind of stupid!!
In comparison to… what exactly?
Food sucks there anyway. This man makes it go down even worse.
Well I won’t be eating JJ anymore… but not because I give a flying f*ck what the guy is doing with $350k and an animal. I just don’t particularly care for their food. See that is a valid reason to not eat there. Not because you want to punish whatever his name is through his franchisees and make it harder to put food on their tables and pay their bills. Meanwhile, the guy you’re mad about? Yeah, he’s unaffected.
Its all legal right??? Lets worry about those breaking the laws first??????
Jesus fucking Christ we have Planned Parenthood on video selling human baby body parts, and we decide to arrest the maker of the hidden video………… I hope that big meteor hits us soon, priorities so messed up.
PP was cleared of all wrongdoing. The same couldn’t be said for the maker of the fraudulent video, who was indicted. Jesus fucking Christ.
Why do he kill those aminals?
To help conserve them and enjoy the hunt.
HE GET FEES EACH MONTH FROM HIS FRANCHISE OWNERS GOOGLE IT TOM BEFORE YOU SAY SOMETHING.
Not much different than Papa Johns owner or those of Hardee’s/Carl’s Jr. or Chick Filet.
And BTW, ivory poachers are the danger to elephants, not hunters. The fees hunters pay to shoot elephants, typically ones causing crop damage or a danger to people, fund the anti poaching patrols.
You know why you should not eat there? They refuse to put any ingredients on the side. Asked for my lettuce and tomato on the side so I could heat it up at home and the refused. Said it was Jimmie’s rule. Fuck Jimmie and his bullshit sandwich ways…
Ya know, if you went to Africa and took one of those hunting safari’s you are doing two things:
1. You are supporting an African City/Country’s economy with THOUSANDS of dollars…
2. You are helping them manage their wildlife population…just like we do here in the U.S.
Your lack of knowledge when it comes to real conservation of of wildlife is sickening….bleeding hearts like you are why many of our cities’ urban/forest buffers are over populated with deer and other small game…roadkill and sick animal populations are the results…
Freaky fast, freaky good. Love it.
FREAK!!!! ASSOCIATE W/ASSASSINS! …YOUR FREAKING FUCKING STUPID!!!!! YOU ARE IDIOTS!!!!! AND YOU WILL PAY FOR SUPPORTING KILLING DISTINCT ANIMALS!!!//GAH!!! GET A CLUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
never heard of a distinct animal. But these animals are bred in captivity and released in a fenced off area for one sole purpose. To be hunted. Why do you think it costs so much? its not cheap to raise an elephant. And there are not too many companies that do it. Yes, elephants are endangered, but not nthese ones that are bred on private property, and kept on private property. When was the last time you went to the zoo, and bitched about the elephant behind the wall. Its the EXACT same thing.
I am not stupid for feeding my family and conserving wildlife. You should get a clue. I am going hunting in the morning
The money spent on these hunts is used for conservation purposes. Find a podcast Radiolab and listen to the episode black rhino.
Entitled LOL. You are nothing but a plant. No pun intended. I know people who set these hunts up, you are a BS artist! Entitled hahahahahaha my aren’t you proud of yourself
It’s not just about the money that hunting brings to communities, The Governments Issue licenses to control populations. He legally hunted.. Our Us Gov issues licences for all the controlled animals here on our continent also. Bear, elk, dear, moose, .. If we had any over population of Elephants here The US would hunt them to.. I am not condoning the mans actions, I don’t know him or his intentions but I do not complain about (Legal) hunting. Also, the article makes it seem as if the animals are thrown in the trash and wasted.. I am sure the local people use almost all of the animals in some way. I understand if you are against hunting. but get the facts and there are always two sides of a story.
All of Jimmy John’s are franchises for the most part. The key phrase in this article was “he purchased a license” meaning it was a LEGAL kill, that animal was born into captivity and raised for the sole purpose for rich white dudes to hunt it down and kill it. You CAN’T SHOOT A WILD RHINO OR ELEPHANT in all the African continent WITH A PERMIT, no matter how much you pay you can’t do it LEGALLY. You can poach all you want with the risk of being in prison in some African country. You can, however, purchase a license to do what Mr. Jimmy John did and kill aa animal bread for the purpose of killing it. That’s why it cost him $350k there are only a handful of breeders who do this and it takes years and thousands of dollars to ready the animal for a hunt. I’m sorry but JJ makes a damn good sandwhich, better then subway, and he is doing his hobbies legally!
Yeaaa this is complete bullshit. $350k for one animal? That gives that country enough money to breed and raise over 20 more. It’s a shame that that’s the only way they can get people to donate towards conservation, but it’s the real world. Hunters aren’t the reason these animals are endangered. They don’t even come close to the top of the list… The destruction of their habitats and POACHERS, on the other hand, are. I don’t see people like you bitching about native tribes killing endangered animals, though they don’t have to give anything back in the way of conservation. If you look at it objectively, does the reason really matter?
well I eat at jj because I like their sandwiches and at my favorite jj , I like the service so If I get hungry for jj’s , ……. Ima gonna get me a samich………………….
I’m glad he’s stopped. That’s good information to share. Thank you.
You do realize that revenue generated from these permits, are used to fund conservation efforts. They increase policing of poachers, provide resources for otherwise stangnat economies in Africa. Im not a hunter myself, but get off your high horse and do some research before you start telling other people how to live their lives. Non-competes are not uncommon documents, but please specify how else employees are mistreated.
This was the big deal? I don’t eat his subs cuz they suck. These animals are far from extinct, get over it.
Dude, these are beauteous creatures that are being murdered for fun. It’s most definitely not okay in the least bit and you are missing the bigger picture, (being that Jimmy John is not the only one poaching). That’s like if a restaurant owner hunted your family and funded the disgusting activity with the restaurant money it earned from customers who had no idea, until your kind became extinct eventually. The focus isn’t that these creatures are “far from extinct”, it’s that it is wrong in every aspect and Jimmy John uses the money from the customers he serves without them knowing. It’s bullshit. He’s a crooked ass wipe.
He is not a poacher but you are an idiot
Once that money leaves the customer’s hand it is the property of the owner of the franchise’s and it is his’ or her’s to do with as they please. You can’t got to Wal-Mart and tell them how to spend their profits or for that matter any other business, because it is their’s to do with as they please. You have no say so over how another spends their money and no one has the say so on how you spend your’s. According to what I gather you’re a disgruntled employee and don’t like to follow your employer’s rules. All business have rules and regulations that must be followed, they are there for a reason and not for you to question. You don’t like the rules and regulations then quit and check out the rules and regulations before you hire into a new workplace, it’s that simple.!! The man has the right to hunt, he does it legally and is not a poacher. I think you best read up on the subject before spewing your venom and hate about hunting. The monies goes towards conservation and habitat renewal and breeding of quality animals. The ones most often hunted are culls; the old, the weak, the sick or over populated habitat animals. When they cull those it makes for a better environment for the surviving animals. You take a “peta” sympathizer’s unknowledgeable rantings to bad mouth your ex-employer and that is unconscionable in my book. Yes, you are just a disgruntled ex-employee out for revenge any way you can get it.!!…..
Although the horrible poaching is disgusting, everyone is basically missing the fact that the company seriously treats its employees like garbage. I worked there for 7+ years and it was the worst job I ever had. Regardless if the stores are franchised, they still have the same strict and ridiculous rules for every store. Some of the rules were so insignificantly blasphemous, too! (i.e. you can only wear white or black socks, not above the ankle, shoes have to be white or black on bottom, no tattoos, only a certain colour khaki pants/shorts is acceptable, I mean, really? What customer refuses to eat at a place because their socks are too high?? COME ON!
Not to mention the asinine rules regarding employee hours. I get not wanting the employees to go over 40 hours a week, but if they have a five hour shift and only three hours until they hit the maximum number of hours per week, we were told to clock out and work for free, or find someone to cover a pointless two hour shift. Even when it was fully staffed! It’s the worst place to work, I’m telling you. Get out while you can or stay far away from this place.
ummm, he didn’t poach jack shit
The story implies that he is a poacher. The fees he pays for the hunting licence goes to herd management and anti-poaching efforts.
While you are correct, it isn’t the only reason why Jimmy John sucks. He’s not a good person and has been sued several times, even dually-sued because he does not care about his employees, or animals.
After I found out he was a poacher many years ago, it didn’t surprise me of another stupidly strict rule he created that made employees take the gauged ear jewelry out and put a super adhesive bandaid over your ears. It painfully took off SKIN and was completely unnecessary. It just goes to show Jimmy John doesn’t give a shit about anyone but himself.
This man is not a poacher. There is a big difference between hunters and poachers
Rude service, tasteless food and very expensive! Not worth the time! Subway is far better!
Not enough to make me boycott. He’s a hunter. So am I. We hunt different things but who cares.
The ignorance in this comment section is overwhelming. Goodbye
Hmmmmmmmmm ……. sounds like Jimmy John needs a cap popped in his ass (while he’s over there, of course) ….and then take a picture of him strung up………………and the money someone would spend on an excursion to hunt the animals, give THAT money to a group to hunt the poachers instead of fighting it…end of story…..I once asks a guy one time (that hunts for sport and for the kill) I asked him that what if YOU were hunted when you went out to do this….his answer was, “well, my hunting days would be over” I don’t want that to happen to me”……my response to him was, “you POS coward”.
that’s all you got? he legally hunts animals? Give me a fin break. Did you know that al the meat, if you don’t want to take it home (I bet he does) goes to the local village and feeds many people for a while? As well as most of the money goes to said village as well. These African hunting packages are very very very common and a huge number of people do it every year. Then you show a bear, and a ram…….tens of thousands of people, if not more, hunt these animals in the US every year. I shot a bear this year, am I evil? I pout in for a ram tag here and there as well. This article was obviously wrote up by some freak PETA looser. You make me sick
As a franchisee he is required to purchase his food from the corporate office so yes by not eating at JJ you will be telling that fat, ugly, deplorable of a human being that it is not ok to kill endangered animals. It is not ok to kill animals period. Want to hunt? Come to my backyard and kill a few squirrels or rabbits. Not an animal that continually decreases in numbers.
coming to your backyard to kill squirrels and rabbits would be very illegal. What he is doing is very legal. Get your priorities strait, and learn the facts about what he did, and what goes on over there, before you form a very bias opinion
Does not matter if it is a chain or a franchise. We shop at jimmy johns he get paid. He uses the money to kill these beautiful endangered animals. I wont be eating there anymore. If enough people did that then no more franchises would be sold and he would loose money.
so would the people who own the franchise …lets just take the money from their families and that will show Jimmy John. Its his money and he can so what he wants. Do I feel for the animals yes but the lives of the others you are trying to hurt are more important then animals.
I wouldn’t worry your pretty little head about it. My comment and my decision to stop eating there won’t hurt their business. But it will and it has taught my children to stand up for what you believe in. Their food is not that great in the first place and this just makes it so much easier to say no. Besides they don’t need my money my community does so I will continue to eat at the mom and pop places, and to support the homeless and the foster care program which I am a foster and adoptive parent over Jimmy John’s. Also I do hunt, and eat read meat. But I hunt animals that are meant to be hunted and I do not do it for sport and I use the whole animal and don’t discard any of it.
On my list of things to care about, animals are about 235,456,678 times higher on my list than a sandwich franchise owner whom I don’t know. They own a business, not a charity. The smart business owner vets their investments. If they chose to invest with a thrill killer, that choice is theirs to deal with, not mine.
None of these animals are endangered and he had a legal permit
I could care less if he has a permit. There are animals here to hunt that are not on the endangered list too. The Buffalo were not endangered list either till to many people wanted to hunt them. Before 1860 there were 60 million American bison. Now as of 2000 there are 360, 000. Most were killed to make way for the railroad or because it was for sport which is disgusting. There is less then 450,000 African elephants and the black rhino is critically endangered . Once again I at meat but these animals don’t needed to be hunted by us if it is just for sport or to mount a trophy to our wall.
Big Friggen deal. So he likes to hunt. So what.
Its his money and can do what he wants.My family hunts but I don’t and its their choice to decided. Americans are so jealous when someone makes more then they do. He is a smart business man which has made him rich. Lots of poor people have worked their way to the top and are rich.Some rich people are poor because they spent to much money. The point is He doesn’t have to share one penny with anyone or get permission on how and where to spend his money. We will always have poor people and rich people .
I do not understand the MENTALITY OF KILLING ANYTHING JUST FOR SPORT. And then SMILING THE BIGGEST SMILE YOU CAN SMILE. A life has been ENDED just for the JOY OF KILLING. This is none other then an evil act. Some day Jimmy John is going to have explain this evil act to God in the judgement. God is REAL.
Are you pro choice?
I am a game ranch manager in South Africa. We breed with endangered wildlife species to try and build up numbers of these animals and also breed better quality animals that were taken out because of non selective and excessive hunting.
Us as farmers in the private sector have to run these breeding projects because government do not have the funding nor manpower to protect our national parks.
We are only able to breed with these animal because the hold a value. If the breeding of these animals were not profitable for the farmers, natural farms/reserves would be converted to catlle or crop farms, and all the indigenous animals culled because of the competition for grazing for the cattle.
One of our biggest sources of income is the hunting of these animals. Although we hunt a certain number of animals anually the are of a lower than average quality for our breeding stock, the breeding herds are still growing. It would not make sense for us to shoot more than we produce because we would be shooting our livelyhood away.
If you had gone and done your research you would find that there was around 100 white rhino left in south africa. What was decided is to give the rhino to private farmers who bred with them and also HUNTED them to be able to feed and continue breeding with them (economically viable)!!
South africa is home today to of the biggest number of white rhino, close to 14000. Hunters and game farmers played the biggest role in this “success story” and not conservationists as many articles will tell you. They are still being bred with great success by many private game ranchers. But we can only continue doing so if it is in fact “economically viable “!
I know the ideal is no to have animals on smaller reserves and breeding them intesively, after all they need to be running free like they were before humans arived. But until national parks and the south african government can ensure their safety, it is better to have a surplus privately owned population than to have no rhino at all.
And unfortunately it goes hand in hand with the HUNTING industry.
Hunting is illegal in national parks in South Africa so none of the truly “wild” animals get taken out by hunters, only poachers (there is a very big difference).
Please do yourselves a favour and look for a DVD called “South Africa: the conservation game”. And you will see that south africa has a better conservation strategy that is driven by a healthy SUSTAINABLE hunting industry, better than any “educated” first world country. Probably the best conservation game in the World!
This is a plea to stop your “anti hunting” campaigns , because you will solely be responsible for the extinction of a species, if you take away the income they bring to the people who are fighting for their survival!!
Alternatively we are happy to keep a rhino alive in in your name , for a mere donation of $350,000.00.
Come visit south africa one day and you will see exactly what i am talking about!
God Bless!
Hey you realize that poaching and legally licensed sport hunts are two totally different things,right? Where poachers illegally slaughter as many animals as possible to sell certain parts illegally on the black market and wasting the rest in the name of personal greed, only taking from the environment and not giving back. licensed hunters however pay to hunt legally, ethically and responsibly. That $350,000 he spent? Where do you think that money went? Right back into the local economy and back into the conservation fund helping to protect these animals. Since he paid a local guide 10x what a poacher makes annually the local doesnt have to turn to poaching to feed his family. The meat from trophy animals is donated to local tribes who now can go weeks without having to kill another animal for food. The data collected from the kill goes towards scientific research. The money from the licence helps fund wildlife preserves and anti-poaching organizations. Tags are only issued based on numbers of animals in the wild meaning that only a responsible number of animals can be legally taken. The animals which can be taken are only mature males who have spread their seed and passed on their genes many times over. Taking of these animals allows for more diverse gene pools keeping the overall herd more healthy. Ever heard of environmental management? Too high a population of a certain species in a certain area creates a lack of food and an unnatural balance creating an over all unhealthy population. When a species population is too high you can either spend taxpayer money to put the animals down or allow wealthy folks like jimmy john to pay out of pocket, putting more money into the local economy and less of a burden on taxpayer. So believe it or not,but this trophy hunter and many other big game hunters like him have done waaaay more to protect the future of african big game animals than most of you ignorant hippies reading this. If you really want to help these animals dont waste youre time worrying about wealthy safari hunters who do it legally. The real problem comes from illegal poaching operations. The illegal ivory trade does more damage to elephant populations in 1year than 10 trophy hunters would in all their lifetimes combined. Its time to focus on the real issues here. Dont think that boycotting a shitty sandwitch shop is actually doing the world any good. Wanna make a difference? Go out and buy a hunting or fishing licence, even if you dont plan on using it. Go buy a duck stamp from the post office. The money and taxes from the purchase of anything hunting related goes straight into a conservation fund, and us hunters and fisherman are the #1 contributers to wildlife management in the world.
What he does with his money is his business… I sure the hell would not want him telling me what I can do with mine. And besides, if you really want to point fingers at someone, how about targeting the people that sells him the licenses to hunt exotic animals.
All this makes me want to do is eat there 3 times a day. Sadly I don’t have a local one I can support.
I am a game ranch manager in South Africa. We breed with endangered wildlife species to try and build up numbers of these animals and also breed better quality animals that were taken out because of non selective and excessive hunting.
Us as farmers in the private sector have to run these breeding projects because government do not have the funding nor manpower to protect our national parks.
We are only able to breed with these animal because the hold a value. If the breeding of these animals were not profitable for the farmers, natural farms/reserves would be converted to catlle or crop farms, and all the indigenous animals culled because of the competition for grazing for the cattle.
One of our biggest sources of income is the hunting of these animals. Although we hunt a certain number of animals anually the are of a lower than average quality for our breeding stock, the breeding herds are still growing. It would not make sense for us to shoot more than we produce because we would be shooting our livelyhood away.
If you had gone and done your research you would find that there was around 100 white rhino left in south africa. What was decided is to give the rhino to private farmers who bred with them and also HUNTED them to be able to feed and continue breeding with them (economically viable)!!
South africa is home today to of the biggest number of white rhino, close to 14000. Hunters and game farmers played the biggest role in this “success story” and not conservationists as many articles will tell you. They are still being bred with great success by many private game ranchers. But we can only continue doing so if it is in fact “economically viable “!
I know the ideal is no to have animals on smaller reserves and breeding them intesively, after all they need to be running free like they were before humans arived. But until national parks and the south african government can ensure their safety, it is better to have a surplus privately owned population than to have no rhino at all.
And unfortunately it goes hand in hand with the HUNTING industry.
Hunting is illegal in national parks in South Africa so none of the truly “wild” animals get taken out by hunters, only poachers (there is a very big difference).
Please do yourselves a favour and look for a DVD called “South Africa: the conservation game”. And you will see that south africa has a better conservation strategy that is driven by a healthy SUSTAINABLE hunting industry, better than any “educated” first world country. Probably the best conservation game in the World!
This is a plea to stop your “anti hunting” campaigns , because you will solely be responsible for the extinction of a species, if you take away the income they bring to the people who are fighting for their survival!!
Alternatively we are happy to keep a rhino alive in in your name , for a mere donation of $350,000.00.
Come visit south africa one day and you will see exactly what i am talking about!
God Bless!
I would not do business with him if he paid me to….and I have NEVER eaten at one of his shops…..thank goodness.
The author loses all credibility when he says that elephants could be extinct by 2020? What a joke. African Elephants? What kind of elephants? Zoos? What a propagandist article.
It’s just a sandwich.
He’s hunting legal game that is allowed for culling purposes to save the environment.
Damn PC police exagerate everything.
What a crock he did not break any laws
Jimmy John is a bag of shit. I wouldn’t eat his sammiches if they were made of naked women and cocaine.
For the record – this doesn’t make me want to avoid his stores. Nope.
If anything it makes me more inclined to eat there. See, without these
hunts, the poachers win. That’s right. These are very carefully
organized hunts. Look at the tusks on those elephants. Those are very
old bulls. Without culling them out the herd suffers. Further, these
hunts cost a LOT of money. Money that is pumped right back into local
conservation and anti-poaching efforts. In addition to the money, every last bit of meat, bone and sinew goes back into the local economy. So these “trophy pictures”? …damn near the only memento a hunter has to show for his money. But the people – like author David here that apparently has not a clue – posting this
crap either don’t care about that or are just too plain ignorant to
figure it out.
I’m thinking this guy isn’t concerned with how his tax dollars are used by the military to slaughter innocent people in other countries or even when it’s used by local law enforcement to kill unarmed men in this country.
I’m waiting for the day when people WTFU and see all this division, huffing and puffing on single issues, racial hate, war-mongering, and so-called economic growth (for the 1%) for what it is. Technology and psychology has outpaced all other areas of human progress and advancement.
Whoever did this “news story” / “expose” is a flat wrong when it comes to understanding the world of hunting. All they see is the animal being killed. When a PAYING hunter hires a PH (Professional Hunter) in Africa and books a hunt, they are FUNDING THE ANTI-POACHING EFFORTS. Take the Black Rhino in the above picture. The hunter hires the PH to go for a Black Rhino. They don’t just walk off into the bush and start slinging lead around until they hit a Rhino. That PARTICULAR Rhino was studied by the Wildlife Authorities in the region, noted to be either, too old to successfully continue breeding or had become a danger to other, younger males or humans, and marked for cull. They then draw up a PERMIT (read legal document) to hunt THAT ONE SPECIFIC Rhino. Hunters from around the concession then bid and the highest dollar (most of which goes to the ANTI-POACHING efforts) To attempt to compare a paying Safari hunter to poachers is the endeavor of a fool who has more good intention than good sense.
In the case of Elephants, they are NOT going extinct. They are being poached out in some areas, as was mentioned in the above drivel, but the paying hunters are NOT the ones causing their numbers to drop. Each one of those Elephants that is killed by a hunter on Safari feeds an entire village. It isn’t the guy goes out there, tromping around the bush, pops and Elephant and then takes the Ivory and leaves the rest. The Professional Hunter, who guides the paying hunter, hires trackers and camp staff from a nearby village. When the paying hunter takes an animal, the meat from that animal goes to the home village of the trackers and staff. It is a symbiotic relationship that benefits all involved.
To attempt to influence ignorant readers, because they do not even attempt to understand hunting in this day and age, the same people who are perfectly content to have a MiddleMan kill and package the animals they eat instead of connecting to their food by doing it themselves or deny their nature by avoiding eating animals, for your clickbait pleasure is wrong. To paint the man above as some kind of “evil guy” because he hunts and kills animals is wrong. Take time to learn and actually know what goes on rather than acting on emotional fluff that will not hold up to inspection.
I will eat there and would love to go hunting with him and help with game management and preservation. If not for hunters there would be nothing to hunt.
The author must be connected to peta, trying to cause trouble over legal hunt not poaching as he brings up. These hunts are authorized by the countries involved and they control animal over population. I don’t eat at fast food places anymore do to economic reasons, but if I did I would eat at this one more often just because asses like you.!!…..
thank you david. we show our support for businesses with our dollars. having been a long time patron of the jimmy john franchise, i will not be doing this anymore. to kill for sport – for fun – for simple pleasure – is sickening. even though this is a franchise, he is still making money off of the purchase of my sandwiches. no more.
Vicki I hope before you take the word of random internet troll as the gospel. Do some research and determine the truth in the information. Whether or not you’re actually hurting the right person(s).
Vicki finds it far easier to simply believe the rambling of PETA-like activists that have no idea what they’re talking about than do any actual research. And the sheer number of “Vickis” is why our country is doomed.
Thank for for this intelligent and informative post.
Folks should be preparing their own meals and avoiding these menus, in the first place… If they really value their lives, care for animals and the conservation of our natural environment, that is.
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Calling Bull Shit on this whole post
You would think the Author of this article might bother to point out that this activity was halted more than 10 years ago. So why dredge it up again now??… Other than the fact that you have an axe to grind I mean.
So, how much do they charge for one of those Black Rhino sandwiches?
I am now, more than ever, going to eat Jimmy John’s every single chance I get.
You will not only place people that need a job out of work but you will also place all these animals in more danger. After Cecil the Lion’s death, the park had to kill over 100 lions because they had no revenue to keep and protect them. The money raised from legal hunting is used to preserve and protect these animals, besides feeding and funding villages. Get the facts straight and don’t let someone’s stupidity ruin it for so many others besides the animals. I don’t hunt nor do I like seeing them dead but sadly enough the money from these hunters are what is keeping these breeds protected.
WHO FUCKING CARES?? Legal hunts? Freedom to do what he enjoys legally! so take away his rights & spread hate for something you don’t like?
David Wolfe, You are so concerned about this man killing animals, are you wanting to boycott Planned Parenthood?
False information and outright lies. Jimmy John Liataud is NOT a poacher, because poachers ARE NOT hunters. Hunting these animals ENSURES the survival of the species. Culling the older dominant males provides the other males an opportunity to breed and add the much needed genetic diversity to the species. Removing the older animals also ensures that there is enough food for the younger animals to survive. The money spent by the hunters goes to maintain the preserves and protect the animals from unlicensed poaching.
Your ignorance is detrimental to the survival of the species that you think you are protecting.
What a douche.
Newsblast, the pictures are stolen and none of his doing. Jimmy does not hunt anymore and these pictures are from 15 years ago. Journalist that write about same old news should be fired!